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Case SC fuel system problem/parts

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Dave

08-25-2002 08:52:10




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I have 2 questions here. First, where is the best place to buy parts for my tractor (1948 SC)? Right now, I need a carb rebuild kit, or at least a gasket set, as my carb leaked like a sieve when I let fuel flow into it. Also, the butterfly valve above the glass fuel filter bowl that controls the flow of gasoline from the tank to the carb won't seal properly. Even with it closed as far as it will go, fuel still gets by at a fairly steady drip. Do I have to replace the whole fuel-filter assembly with one from another tractor, or can I repair the old valve? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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C. Amick

08-27-2002 09:41:10




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 Re: Case SC fuel system problem/parts in reply to Dave, 08-25-2002 08:52:10  
I think the best solution to the leaking sediment bowl shut off valve is to stop using it. I have been buying plastic fuel shut valves at a local hardware store and putting them in the line between the sediment bowl and carburetor. The are made for lawn and garden equipment and work great. They are around $6.00 each. I think they are ball valves. They open and close with a half turn. I also have been installing in-line fuel filters.

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Dave

08-28-2002 17:54:15




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 Re: Re: Case SC fuel system problem/parts in reply to C. Amick, 08-27-2002 09:41:10  
Thanks a lot for the reply, C. I think what you suggested is exactly what I am going to end up doing. Use a ball valve and an inline filter. I thought I might just remove the whole valve/sediment bowl assembly from the tank, screw in a brass nipple, and run rubber line from there down to the hard line, with a ball valve somewhere along the way.



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Mike Schotte

08-25-2002 09:42:04




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 Re: Case SC fuel system problem/parts in reply to Dave, 08-25-2002 08:52:10  
Hi Dave,

I've got a '49 SC, and have had my share of fun with rebuilding the Zenith 9667A carburetor (just ask Baggsy!)

I just did a quick search of the Case archives for my posts from earlier this year concerning this particular carb- and here are the rebuild kit part numbers that I've found in my research and the addresses of the web sites of where you can get them.

The attached link listed below is my previous post about what is (or isn't in) included in each type of kit.

1) Tisco rebuild kit, you can order it from Dave Reed at Otto Gas Engine Works. Look down at the bottom under parts for "S" series tractors. The part number is Tisco kit (BK52V).

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Dave

08-25-2002 17:27:18




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 Re: Re: Case SC fuel system problem/parts in reply to Mike Schotte, 08-25-2002 09:42:04  
Mike, thanks a lot for all the carb kit info and your rating of the three...it was extremely helpful. Since I have a NAPA close by, I think I will go with this kit. How necessary do you think it is to replace the choke shaft, anyway? Is that a part that should be replaced during the rebuild? Oh, and will it cause me any problems if the fuel shutoff under the tank does not totally seal? When the sediment bowl was off, I could see that it was dripping, no matter how tightly I tried to close it.

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Larry

08-25-2002 19:07:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Case SC fuel system problem/parts in reply to Dave, 08-25-2002 17:27:18  

You probably could get a new sediment bowl from NAPA. They're not that expensive.

If you can't get new butterfly shafts in a kit and yours are worn out you could try this trick. Build up the worn part of the shaft with JB Weld. Then have it turned town on a lathe. I did this years ago on a 1941 SC carb that had worn out brass shafts. That was before JB Weld was even around. I used Delco Remy electrical epoxy. Seems to be the same stuff. If your shafts are worn out you won't be able to adjust your carb.

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Mike Schotte

08-25-2002 17:56:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Case SC fuel system problem/parts in reply to Dave, 08-25-2002 17:27:18  
Hello again Dave,

I'll be happy to help you with any questions you have during the carb rebuild.

As far as replacing the choke shaft- this is only necessary if it is excessively worn or bent. The brass shaft is softer than the cast iron body, so the shafts will decrease in diameter over time. My old shaft was pretty worn out at the ends. I only think it's a problem if it's loose enough to allow air to leak into the throat of the carb. Most of the kits provide a wool "packing". Not sure- but this might be for sealing around an old shaft, if necessary.

Let me offer you some pieces of rebuild advice that I learned by trial and error on my carb:

1) Make sure the float level is adjusted right. The measurement that they give you from the top of the carb body to the bottom of the float is for the CLOSED positon (carb held upside down)- NOT the other way around!

2) Make sure the float doesn't have any pinholes in it. I accidentally creased my old float while adjusting the levels... and it made a pinhole so small it took several weeks to fill up with gas and flood the carb.

3) Trace your old gasket onto the new gasket, if possible. I've always had to cut away portions of the gasket around the floats to get them to clear- as the new gaskets have "D" shaped float holes instead of ovals. (I suppose you could install the gasket before you mounted the floats- but that seemed stupid to me.) Make sure the floats are still free to travel after re-assembling the carb.

4) Always install the needle valve spring, and get yourself a good inline fuel filter to protect the nice clean carb you just built!

5) Make sure the drain hole is clear in the bottom of the intake bowl. This will allow gas to run out so you can see if the floats are sticking, or if the tractor is flooded due to excessive cranking.

As far as your question about the sediment bowl/fuel strainer... I would pull it off for now. I don't have one on my tractor, so I can't give you any advice on troubleshooting them. What I can say is... it's not worth burning up your tractor by ignoring a gas leak.

Good luck, and keep me posted on how it goes. -Schotte

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