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John Stevenson

11-12-2002 11:27:52




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Hi Everyone, I havent been on here for awhile and I am glad to see this site alive as ever. I have some questions for the lot of you I was hoping to get your opinions on.

Upon start-up for at least 10 seconds, I have a dull growling noise somewhere in the transmission or clutch, possibly the hydrulic pump. I cant isolate it easily. It does go away. This is on a cold start-up , when warm does not occurr. This happened after I switched to a full synthetic 5-40W oil - much easier starting so far in cold temps, which is what I wanted.

At the same time I drained and changed the hydraulic oil at the bottom of the PTO area. Not much came out! yikes! and was a bad grey/black color. I reached in with my finger and tried to pry out gobs of goo (deposits and old oil?) It was pretty bad. I cleaned it out as best I could, without dismantling. Put fresh oil in up to inspection plug level.

Question2 There is a large plug on top (right under the PTO enagage lever) with a CO stamped on it, and a smaller one about 2 inches beside it with a K stamped on it. I figured the smaller K would be the PTO/hydraulic fill, and guessing the larger CO plug is for gear oil fill? Can anyone please help me on this? If it is the gear oil fill, where is the ispection level plug? How much to put in? 80 -90W? What do these plug stamps stand for....am I doing the right thing?

Any ideas with the noise?

Lastly, someone mentioned before about the clutch being an oil bath clutch can anyone verify this? What is maintenance involved? How do I know if my clutch is adjusted properly? I use it heavily to feather my snowblower in first (beacuse it is geared too fast in deep snow). I know this is not the best situation, but thats what I got. So what does a guy do? How does a guy know when hes got major trouble in the clutch and needs replacing? Is it just a pressure plate and disc to replace? Sometimes it stays engaged when you disengage the clutch - I posted a question on that and someone said it could be just condensation on the flywheel - but if it is covered in oil...???

A tall order I know...thanks for any help. john

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caseman-d

11-14-2002 16:59:42




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 Re: case 500 questions - noises and synthetic oil in reply to John Stevenson, 11-12-2002 11:27:52  
I wonder what I did wrong, thought it worked for awhile



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Jim P

11-12-2002 22:31:10




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 Re: case 500 questions - noises and synthetic oil in reply to John Stevenson, 11-12-2002 11:27:52  
Oh yes!! The front plug on top is for trans. and the rear (smaller) is for hyda.



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Jim P

11-12-2002 22:29:53




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 Re: case 500 questions - noises and synthetic oil in reply to John Stevenson, 11-12-2002 11:27:52  
Are you talking about he old 500. A LA with a six cyl. Diesel engine? The trans, level is a little 1/4 plug on the right side of the back of the trans. cover a little lower than axle level(Tran.80/90 and the Hyda. now case Hy-Tran.) and the Hyda level lower left of the hyda housing. Filter for the Hyda a pot sticking out on the right. it is wedge wound and can be cleaned.Three bolts hold it on. Yes it's oil bath clutch and you have to also drain the clutch housing when you drain the pan. They are easy to adjust and should not stick when adjusted right. If you have to feather it like you said you couldn't have picked a better tractor. I've had seven Cases with these clutches and have never had to replace one. and very little adjutment needed, My 1966 930 has had the clutch adjusted only once in 8500 hrs. it's still smooth as silk when engageing. and is the best tractor I got for backing up to hitch up implements.

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john

11-13-2002 08:09:10




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 Re: Re: case 500 questions - noises and synthetic oil in reply to Jim P, 11-12-2002 22:29:53  
Jim, thank you very much for the useful information, particularily the hyrd filter and the trans oil check plug location - I had no idea! I think I will replace the hydr filter ASAP. Yes, this is a 6 cyl diesel. Sheet metal is OK with original paint, and optional Case cab. It also has 34" rear tires. How I found it was truly a fluke, and bought it on the spot for 3000 canadian - it is one decison that I will never regret. Although it is old, a lot of neighbours and visitors gravitate to it to have a look.

Where does a guy drain the clutch housing oil as well? When I look under on the transmission, all I see is one large drian plug towards the front - where is the clutch housing drain plug? Is it filled by the same fill plug on the back like the trans? Any ideas on the growling noise? How does a guy make sure the clutch is adjusted properly? I have never worked on such a creature before (oil clutch)- I guess the principal would be the same as a regular clutch. Caseman, thank you for the quanities - couldnt open your picture though.

thanks again guys,
john

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Jim P

11-13-2002 22:29:40




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 Re: Re: Re: case 500 questions - noises and synthetic oil in reply to john, 11-13-2002 08:09:10  
34 in. rubber make it a later model. I don't think Case made cabs for farm tractors until the late 930,1030 or 70 series. Send me a pic of your tractor, it might be a Egging Cab or excel or yearround. Egging looked more factory. The clutch housing has the drain on the lower left side and this oil is engine oil not trans. oil, and you drain it everytime you change oil. You adjust the clutch by taking off a plate on the clutch housing ,left or right (I prefer left) and reach in and turn engine over until you see a pin sticking out. reach in and pull pin out and turn plate until it clicks into the next hole(clockwise tightens counterclockwise lossens) do not overtighten or get it too loose. When engaging clutch it should have moderate pressure and you should feel it go over center.

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Jim P

11-13-2002 22:13:28




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 Re: Re: Re: case 500 questions - noises and synthetic oil in reply to john, 11-13-2002 08:09:10  
Oh yes!! If the edgewound hyda filter is not damaged all you have to do is wash it out. The trans. has no filter.



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caseman-d

11-12-2002 17:40:19




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 Re: case 500 questions - noises and synthetic oil in reply to John Stevenson, 11-12-2002 11:27:52  
I'm kinda new to this so I'll give this a try and if it works I might be able to help futher.
Transmission and differentail 15-3/4 gl
hydraulic 14 quarts,
caseman-d



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