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birdatwork

03-31-2003 18:15:28




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I went to an auction the other day and bought two tractors. A Case 730 LP 4 speed and a Ford 901 LP select-o-speed(automatic transmission). I bought them both at a good price, but since I only have 10 acres I probably only need one. What I'm trying to decide is which one to keep. They both run really good. Both have a PTO and 3 point. The only thing I know wrong with either of them is the Ford's 10th gear is out and the brakes don't work very well on the Case.

What can ya'll tell me about a Case 730? How available are parts? Do ya'll think it will take much to repair the brakes? Somebody told me the 730 has a torque converter in the transmission that might make it more expensive to repair. What else would be a big expense on the 730?

I thought I would get a compression gauge and check both tractors. Does anybody know what the compression should be for either the 730 or 901?

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dave

04-02-2003 16:13:05




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 Re: Case 730 or Ford 901 in reply to birdatwork, 03-31-2003 18:15:28  
Me again, If my memory serves me well I remember a neighbor who could never find fault with the egale. He remarked that for those brakes to work perfect they had to have a new round ball, like a round bearing type of a deal in the brakes that could get a flat spot. Please do not come down on me as he died 20 plus years ago, and I have no fact or manual --just a clouded memory. Egale hitch is a case way of saying 3 point only they have on the bottom lift arms a deal that can come up under the implment--then go forward with the tractor instead of pin pointing the implment to the tractor and hoking at a side motion--it will be obveous if it has a 3 point. PS the ---S--- is the saftey on the transmission for START. I hope I did not confuse you more. Good luck Dave

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Tom in Mo.

04-01-2003 20:12:33




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 Re: Case 730 or Ford 901 in reply to birdatwork, 03-31-2003 18:15:28  
Hello BAW,
This is interesting. You bought two very different tractors. They are both good machines. Any tractor that survives 40 years is pretty good. But they are in seperate classes of work performances. Why did you buy LP gas tractors instead of a gasoline or diesel? Are you equipped to refill from the house tank? The diesel or gas is much more common. The Case has a much bigger engine and is heavier and therefore will do more work. The Ford may be a little easier to handle but has a lot less pull. Your Case sounds like it doesn't have the Case-o-matic torque convertor, it has the Dual-Range transmission which has a hi-lo range for the trans. The Select-o-speed on the Ford was a design stepping stone to automatic transmissions that didn't quite live up to it's goals.
I own a 961 Ford gas and a Case 830 CK LPG.
If you are gonna hay or till use the Case.

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brian in ky

04-01-2003 09:05:45




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 Re: Case 730 or Ford 901 in reply to birdatwork, 03-31-2003 18:15:28  
Your case 730 sounds like a comfort king. If so It has an 8-spd tranny and the high low shifter is on the left side of the dash. The case-o-matic lever should be attached to the steering colum. If it is a CK you can ease into the clutch pedel with some RMP. It was the early models with eagle hitch that were all or nothing. The CK models had a longer spool in the valve which allowed for inching the pedel out. The tractor will always start in case-o-matic and can be shifted into direct by pulling the lever up or shifted bacck to case-o-matic by shoving the lever down. Pressing the clutch pedel will automatically return to case-o-matic. Be carefull as this tractor can free wheel in case-o-matic position.

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birdatwork

04-01-2003 11:35:37




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 Re: Re: Case 730 or Ford 901 in reply to brian in ky, 04-01-2003 09:05:45  
You are correct it does have that high and low position. With a S in between. What is the S? The only lever I remember on the steering column is the gas lever on the right side. I can't remember if it says comfort king or not. I haven't got it moved to my house yet, so I can't look right now either. I think it is a CK though.

I don't understand what the case-o-matic is. Is case-o-matic desirable or undesirable?

What is a eagle hitch?


Thanks

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brian in ky

04-02-2003 19:19:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Case 730 or Ford 901 in reply to birdatwork, 04-01-2003 11:35:37  
I love my case-o-matic. They are pretty trouble free. The duel range is just as good. A duel range is a regular clutch and the COM uses a torque converter much like a auto tranny in a car. It can be locked into direct. Eagle hitch is like three point but without any side to side movement and no draft control. It is kinda like a quick hitch setup for implaments that are matched to the hitch. The --S-- is for start. If the safety switch is working the tractor must be in this position to start. Yours is a CK if the throttle lever is on the right side. The none CK's had it on the left. It also sounds ads if yours is a duel range.

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GeoMo

04-01-2003 07:30:47




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 Re: Case 730 or Ford 901 in reply to birdatwork, 03-31-2003 18:15:28  
I have VAC and 830D, agree with Dave about brakes, also they must be adjusted close. If their is too much free play they will not hold well.



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dave

03-31-2003 19:47:51




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 Re: Case 730 or Ford 901 in reply to birdatwork, 03-31-2003 18:15:28  
The 730 may just need the brakes scuffed up with a wire brush on a drill to take away the glaze--I would assume. If you are going to use the Case-O-Matic for PTO / like on a baler / chopper etc. they are a real pain as if you stop the ground motion for say a large bunch in the windrow, you must throttle down before letting out the clutch at a pto speed. This is not actualy a clutch but a valve for the oil --only capable of all in or all out, like dropping your automatic transmission in your car in gear at full throttle. Otherwise on a plow, disk etc it works great. My dads 730D was on the job for over 25 years, batteries/ tires / belts was the only expence. Good luck Dave

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laipuller

03-31-2003 19:17:19




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 Re: Case 730 or Ford 901 in reply to birdatwork, 03-31-2003 18:15:28  
get rid of the ford. i have several old cases and brakes aren't a strong point on most. the selectospeed is not cheap to work on and CAN jump into or out of gear without notice. my 2 cents worth



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bob in pa

04-02-2003 19:02:51




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 Re: Re: Case 730 or Ford 901 in reply to laipuller, 03-31-2003 19:17:19  
does that 730 have a hydrlic deal that works your clutch.or just a rod to the clutch. iffen its hydralic its caseamatic. if not its dual



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