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1959 Case 400. How much to mill head. E85?

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Todd E Dombrock

09-27-2006 20:38:09




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Just a post to check if anyone has milled the head on a 159 (originally a 148) to raise the compression. Looking for around 10.5:1. Second question is, has anyone tuned a carburetor to run E85? It's 105 octane around here, and I was thinking about taking advantage of it for pulling (hence the compression question). Any help is appreciated, even if it's just speculation!




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LDW

09-30-2006 10:32:12




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 Re: 1959 Case 400. How much to mill head. E85? in reply to Todd E Dombrock, 09-27-2006 20:38:09  
You'll have to go more than 20% on jetting. Get a much larger carb for one thing, dont try to use whats on it stock. I'm assuming you want to run higher rpms for hobbystock possibly?? LOL You shouldn't have to much "pinging" problems at 9 to 10to1 compression, you can control that pretty well with timing and making sure you are getting enough fuel to it. Do you think you will take down that lil Leyland?? Ha ha! If you need I can loan you some of that special milk we run in it. Good luck!

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just wondering

10-01-2006 16:52:38




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 Re: 1959 Case 400. How much to mill head. E85? in reply to LDW, 09-30-2006 10:32:12  
A Leyland?! What model? How much work did ya have to do to that to get it to pull? Does it stand a chance? Don't see many pulling.



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LDW

10-01-2006 21:47:53




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 Re: 1959 Case 400. How much to mill head. E85? in reply to just wondering, 10-01-2006 16:52:38  
model 272, no work at all, strip it down, turn the pump up, run like h@ll. So, what part of Wisconsin are ya from?



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dboll

09-29-2006 05:08:43




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 Re: 1959 Case 400. How much to mill head. E85? in reply to Todd E Dombrock, 09-27-2006 20:38:09  
contrary to the normal traits of alcohol e85 does not work well in hi-comp. engines, they ping on it. At 10.5to 1 I would say buy racing gas. If you can make it work more power to you.



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DKase

09-28-2006 19:47:31




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 Re: 1959 Case 400. How much to mill head. E85? in reply to Todd E Dombrock, 09-27-2006 20:38:09  
I have run the E85 in our tractors in the summer time. You need to open the carb. jets about 20%. The octane is higher, but there are less BTU's in a gallon than there is in a gallon of gas. Engines run very cold blooded on E85. Plan on taking 10 minutes of running to get the choke pushed in all the way. In the winter most carb.'s on tractors will not open up enough to run properly. It will take about 20% more fuel to develop the same horse power. I own stock in 3 ethanol plants, and would like nothing better than to run it rather than gas. With the price the way it is compared to gas in my area I cannot afford to use it. With the 10% mandate on the West coast the demand for the E85 for blending purposes has it priced out of the gas market. If you have a new enough vehicle that is E85 compatable, they will run on about 5% more of the E85 than gas. That makes it work! Let us know if you figure out a way to make it work for you. DK

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PaulD

09-28-2006 19:35:01




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 Re: 1959 Case 400. How much to mill head. E85? in reply to Todd E Dombrock, 09-27-2006 20:38:09  
I thimk you should put that 5 years of education to use and do the math. HaHa



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