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Wide Open

01-30-2004 15:28:22




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I was told today that when pulling a heavy constant load such as plowing or disking I should try to run the powershift in 3rd. Is there any truth to this? Is this like direct drive? Seems to me like 2nd would be direct drive? What do ya all think?




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doug@upr

01-31-2004 17:31:44




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 Re: 2470 Question? in reply to Wide Open, 01-30-2004 15:28:22  
i agree jp, i also have plowed alot of snow with case 4wds, and it never fails, you eventually get yourself in a situation where you have to hit the clutch when your in 2nd or 3rd range, just don't make a habit out of it. unfortunatly alot of case dealers have to accept some of the responsiblity for the case 70-90 series bad name, since i have seen alot of the parts that have been replaced on these tractors over the years, that did not need to be. i believe that when these tractors hit the dealers and the repair shops yards, they start to see dollar signs.

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doug@upr

01-30-2004 16:55:28




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 Re: 2470 Question? in reply to Wide Open, 01-30-2004 15:28:22  
yes if you run your powershift in high then all of the planetaries are locked up at once, but i don't see really how this will prolong your powershift life since virtually all failures that i have seen can be credited to the failure of the centre bearing in the carrier assy. or should i say the bearing coming loose in the housing, which then causes the pack assy. to drop and everything runs out of alignment and chews everything up, also one of the worst thing that you can do to your tractor is to press in your clutch, while your tractor is in 3rd range, forcing the clutches to shift from 3rd to 1st range instantly, ALWAYS shift manually from 3rd to 2nd to 1st, and of course this also applies if your in 2nd range, shift manually to 1st range before depressing clutch pedal. this is one of the biggest reasons why the 94 & 96 series case tractors had much more reliable powershifts, since they had electric over hydraulic controls for the powershift the operator could not abuse the clutches since the valving would not allow it.

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Jim P

01-30-2004 21:34:03




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 Re: Re: 2470 Question? in reply to doug@upr, 01-30-2004 16:55:28  
They have told me the same thing on my 2390-2590-4690----but what are you suppose to do when somthing comes up in the field and you have to stop suddenly?? /when there is no time to shift down. Proves a great engineering error on the part of Case, in fact they have many bad things built in to these tractors. Like for instance in the middle of the trans. there is a 50cent O-ring, that if it goes bad makes a $15000 job out of it. another is that you can work on the tans, without taking off the cab. WRONG almost anything that is on the top of the trans, you have to take the cab off or at least lossen and tip one side or the other. their goofs and false advertising cost us owners way more money to fix than it should. Did you know that when they first put out the 70 series they, at first, were not going to put grab handles on the cab??? Smart very smart... To me it shows the best Cases were the 1929 through 1966-- models, from than on lot poorer in many ways

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