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1937 L Case Waterpump Leaking

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Cheg

05-18-2004 08:46:16




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Has anybody ever rebuilt a waterpump for a Case L? If so, what seals do I need? Are there kits available? I am not having luck finding waterpump parts.




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Ryan

05-18-2004 15:33:21




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 Re: 1937 L Case Waterpump Leaking in reply to Cheg, 05-18-2004 08:46:16  
Alot of the old pumps used a rope seal. You have to back the brass nut out and feed a new peice of rope seal behind the nut. This takes patience and usually cussing. I got some rope seal from a gasket company and I also got some from a plumbing store, they are different.

Ryan



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Robert Pence

05-18-2004 17:39:48




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 Re: Re: 1937 L Case Waterpump Leaking in reply to Ryan, 05-18-2004 15:33:21  
I know exactly what you mean, Ryan, but there's no nut on this model, no place to put packing (rope seal) if you wanted to. That said, they seem to work very well and leak very little so long as you keep them greased. I can get through a summer of playing at home and going to shows -- and when I'm at a show, I'm doing something with it almost all the time, not letting it sit in a roped-off line -- without adding any significant amount of coolant.

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Robert Pence

05-18-2004 12:39:09




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 Re: 1937 L Case Waterpump Leaking in reply to Cheg, 05-18-2004 08:46:16  
I've had the water pump apart on my 1937 L, and there are no seals in the contemporary sense. The shaft is a close fit in a bronze or brass bushing, and like Gene said, the grease keeps it from leaking.

Cooling systems on the older tractors aren't pressurized, and I think there's internal suction in the pump that keeps it from leaking when the engine is running. I use lithium grease in mine, but ordinary grease would probably be OK, too. I try to remember to give it about half a turn every hour or so of operation, and when I shut the tractor down, I give it another shot while turning the fan by hand. That pretty well keeps it from dripping while it's parked.

If yours is badly worn, it would be a fairly simple machine-shop job to make a new bushing and resurface the shaft. The catch is that by my experience and that of a few others, it's nearly impossible to get the pump out without breaking something. They're almost always rusted tightly in place.

Oh, and be careful turning the grease cup while the engine is running, or you'll get sore fingers or worse.

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Cheg

05-18-2004 13:17:56




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 Re: Re: 1937 L Case Waterpump Leaking in reply to Robert Pence, 05-18-2004 12:39:09  
I better buy my lottery ticket tonight. A couple turns stopped the leak. That NEVER happens with antique tractors.

Thanks guys!!



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Gene Dotson

05-18-2004 10:06:04




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 Re: 1937 L Case Waterpump Leaking in reply to Cheg, 05-18-2004 08:46:16  
Cheg; Did you grease the water pump? It has a seal that is pressurized with grease to seal the shaft.. Gene



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cheg

05-18-2004 10:23:00




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 Re: Re: 1937 L Case Waterpump Leaking in reply to Gene Dotson, 05-18-2004 10:06:04  
No I did not. I just got the tractor last night. I think there is a grease cup that I need to turn. Do you have any input on doing this. I am new to Case.



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Bob

05-18-2004 19:35:09




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 Re: Re: Re: 1937 L Case Waterpump Leaking in reply to cheg, 05-18-2004 10:23:00  
I have repaired the water pumps on my C and L.

The shaft and bush on the C were badly worn. I had a new bush turned and the pump shaft built up at a machine shop with metal sprayed on then turned to the right size. Managed to get a new impeller from Case. The pump is as good as new.

However, as indicated above, getting the pump off was not an easy matter. I did break a bit off the main casting but had it brazed back on.

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