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Rich Amaral

09-06-1999 20:16:09




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I've just purchased a Case 580 CK 1970 tractor with loader and backhoe. Before I bought the tractor I noticed two serious problems and adjusted the purchase price accordingly. The first problem is water in the crankcase, lots of it. I assumed it might be one or more cylinder seals leaking. It could also be a leaky head gasket or cracked block. How can I find out for sure? Or is there another way that lots of water can collect in the crank case (by water I mean coolant/anti-freeze). The second problem is a knocking sound in the transmission. It doesn't happen all of the sudden, but takes a little while after starting the engine. It is very noticable and I can hear it when its in netural or in gear. It almost completly goes away when I step on the clutch. Any ideas? By the way, despite these and other problems, the engine starts quickly and runs strong and the overall shape of the machine is good for its age. Thanks in advance for your help.

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wayne

09-07-1999 20:22:23




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 Re: Case 580 CK in reply to Rich Amaral, 09-06-1999 20:16:09  
A head gasket would "tend" to leak into a cylinder or to the outside, but it could leak to an oil passage (drain). I would put my money on a sleave seal (o-ring). If it leaks that MUCH, then you could take the pan off and see where it is coming from. If it has cracks anywhere, then it would sound expensive to me. I believe it is the 188 engine? Don't know about the tranny, I've only had hydraulic trans. (780 & 780D Case).

I hope it was a good enough price, My 780 was saved from a tractor salvage yard when I bought it, because it wouldn't start at a Winter auction. (I saw it run the day before.) Kept it 10 yrs, sold it, and bought a 780D 4x4.

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Rich Amaral

09-09-1999 13:59:57




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 Re: Re: Case 580 CK in reply to wayne, 09-07-1999 20:22:23  
Thanks for the info Wayne. I'll take the oil pan out and investigate. One other thought occured to me after I had the radiator repaired. The prevoius owner used water as a coolant (without antifreeze), this caused the bottom of the radiator to rupture and leak when the water froze during the winter. Do you think the freezing water might have cracked the block? Can water do that to a casting?

-Rich

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Wayne

09-10-1999 20:20:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Case 580 CK in reply to Rich Amaral, 09-09-1999 13:59:57  
I am sorry to report that you have a major problem with your engine. The block is definately cracked, probably around the sleeve. The previous owner probably drained the water the best he could, but not all of it. Water can freeze and break any kind of casting, no matter how strong. Sorry to bring bad news.



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Terry

03-16-2003 07:19:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Case 580 CK in reply to Wayne, 09-10-1999 20:20:52  
If the block is crack by the water, depending where it is cracked, JB Weld can fix it. Good Luck!



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Tim Chapeski

09-23-1999 20:38:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Case 580 CK in reply to Wayne, 09-10-1999 20:20:52  
Just a little experience I have to share with you regarding the 188 D engine.I also had a similar problem and it was not gaskets or cracked block but simply a frost plug in the head that was leaking coolant into the crankcase.To my delight this was a very inexpensive repair, but one that was first overlooked.Ihope this will be of some help.



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