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440 john deere crawler

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Todd W

02-05-2000 18:25:54




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Hi Guys, I am going to look at a 1960 john deere
440 diesel crawler. the pads are shot. Does anyone
know if replacement pads, chains, pins & bushings are still available? Is there anything particular
that I should look for with the diesel or this particular model?
Thanks, Todd




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steamer

02-11-2000 11:50:07




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 Re: 440 john deere crawler in reply to Todd W, 02-05-2000 18:25:54  
I have a 420C with the 62 manual blade. The 440 is essentially the same (the tin, etc is different). The gas engine is good, but the diesel can be trouble.

These use a Detroit 2-53 2-cyl, 2-cycle engine. It puts out higher HP than the gas, but an old one can have problems. There is a supercharger on the right side (that large bump that has GM cast into it). It blows air through ports in the center of the cylinder sleeve. The SC has pressure fed bearings, and if the seals leak lube oil into the airflow, you'll get detonation.

You also have to watch for crankshaft bearing troubles. Once, someone tried to sell me a 435 with serious rod bearing trouble. he thought that knock was the injector pump, and ignored the fact that the oil pressure was 0 at idle, but 60 PSI wound up. The 2-53 has no injector pump! It injects by third main camshaft rockers striking the tappet on the end of the injector. Needless to say, I didn't go home with it..... .

Now, all that aside, if it runs smoothly, and the oil pressure looks good, it'll be a fine engine. Be prepared for the noise, though. the 2-53 sounds like a diesel powered vacuum cleaner!

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Mongo

02-05-2000 22:12:03




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 Re: 440 john deere crawler in reply to Todd W, 02-05-2000 18:25:54  
They are still available. If it has the two bolt pads, then you will have to replace the whole works because they only make the four bolt pads now. If the chains and bushings are still good, I'd weld some bar stock on the pads to build them back up. I have had no real problems except for the fact they are a dry clutch and I would like to have something larger. Good luck to you.

P.S. I haven't had any tranny problems, knock on wood.

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Jerry Cagle

02-05-2000 19:51:29




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 Re: 440 john deere crawler in reply to Todd W, 02-05-2000 18:25:54  
I had a J.D. 440 with gasoline engine & had bad transmission problems. Hope you have better luck. jlc



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