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Pro's and Con's of hydraulic vs. cable operated dozer blade

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Frank

02-05-2000 20:50:44




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We are contemplating purchasing a dozer to push trees and brush and so some land contouring on our farms.

A local person has a cable operated D-7. Would this be a good buy?

Or would it be best to look for a hydraulic operated one or would the cable operated one be just as good. What are the pro's and con's of hydraulic vs cable operated.




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Bret

02-07-2000 06:23:08




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 Re: Pro's and Con's of hydraulic vs. cable operated dozer blade in reply to Frank, 02-05-2000 20:50:44  
Cable blades work great on stumps and rocks. You can "snap" with a cable blade, sudden pressure as opposed to gradual pressure. Plus- with a D-7 you can really push the garbage to where you want it. No toying around with a machine that size.



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Bill From Ontario

02-06-2000 08:01:53




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 Re: Pro's and Con's of hydraulic vs. cable operated dozer blade in reply to Frank, 02-05-2000 20:50:44  
I asked a friend of mine why he only used cable D-8's, and he said, for clearing brush and such, he didn't have to worry about snagging a hydraulic line. Made sense to me, at the time. I wouldn't hesitate getting a cable D-7.



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JD-8

02-06-2000 06:48:45




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 Re: Pro's and Con's of hydraulic vs. cable operated dozer blade in reply to Frank, 02-05-2000 20:50:44  
The hydraulic blade is a little better if it has downpressure, ie, you can use it to lift up the front of the tractor. This will put more weight on the blade and cause it to dig in more forcefully. However, cable blades on large machines, such as a D-7, can be very useful too. Also you may be able to buy a large cable dozer for much less than you could buy a comparably sized hydraulic dozer. For any dozer over say, 20,000 lbs, a cable blade is usually heavy enough to dig in enough to do some worthwhile pushing. You can quite often pick up an old cable-drive D-7 or D-8 for $2-5,000. Don't pay more than $5,000 for a cable machine, no matter how good a condition it's in. There will always be another one you can have. Other good cralwers in this size category include the IH TD-20, TD-24, and TD-25 as well as the Allis Chalmers HD-14, HD-16, HD-19, HD-20, and HD-21. The cats are usually easier to find parts for, though. Good smaller hydraulically operated dozers include the D-5, D-6, TD-14, TD-15, HD-7, HD-10, and HD-11. These machines are generally much more useful with hydraulic blades than with cable setups because they are in the 14-20,000 lb. category.

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Mongo

02-05-2000 22:30:03




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 Re: Pro's and Con's of hydraulic vs. cable operated dozer blade in reply to Frank, 02-05-2000 20:50:44  
This gets into personal preference a little. If it is the old style with hydraulic lift only, I would just as well use a cable lift. But, if we are talking a 6 way blade for a comparable price, you'd be crazy to pass it up.



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Diesel Doc

02-11-2000 09:10:06




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 Re: Re: Pro's and Con's of hydraulic vs. cable operated dozer blade in reply to Mongo, 02-05-2000 22:30:03  
Cabel might be ok till ya bury the tracks in mud and no down pressure to lift the tractor back up



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Mongo

02-14-2000 15:20:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Pro's and Con's of hydraulic vs. cable operated dozer blade in reply to Diesel Doc, 02-11-2000 09:10:06  
That is what they made wenches for... you know, big burly bar maids in hip boot to pull you out! Oh, sorry, that is something else... never mind.



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Jerry Liverseed

04-10-2000 13:25:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Pro's and Con's of hydraulic vs. cable operated dozer blade in reply to Mongo, 02-14-2000 15:20:32  
If you can find a hydraulic dozer for the same money as cable buy the hydraulic The reason cable was made and used is it was cheaper to make. Bin around that cable machines along time THANKS



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