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M need a rebuild?????

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Alabama

11-16-2001 10:17:14




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I read that a Super M should start from a dead stop on a hill in 5th gear without the engine laboring. With my M I really have to give it gas and ease the clutch out for her to take off even on a flat surface in 5th gear...do I have a problem and how can I tell what it may be?

Thanks for the help in advance!




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The Dukester

11-17-2001 22:00:00




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 Re: M need a rebuild????? in reply to Alabama, 11-16-2001 10:17:14  
For any tractor to pull away in road gear without making the engine labor is pure folly, but still it doesn't hurt the engine if you don't deliberately try to stall it and feather the clutch a little until some speed is built up. I would think anyone would realize you don't "drop" the clutch under load in any gear with any tractor. An H can be started with a reasonable load on a smooth road in 5th gear by feathering the clutch and it doesn't hurt a thing, but you've got to exercise some judgement with any tractor pulling loads at any speed. I really liked TA in the Super MTA to help get under way, that was an absolutely wonderful invention, and if used as it was intended, was as durable as you could expect. But when you misused it, it couldn't take it and it got a bad reputation and IH suffered from it. Without TA, most everyone started loads for the road in 4th and "slid 'er into 5th" when you got moving, and you could do this quite smoothly with a minimum of gear clashing. It was shifting down from 5th to 4th where most of the damage was done to the sliding gears, this required more "expertise" to "fit the gears". 5th when yo

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Steven

11-16-2001 12:18:07




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 Re: M need a rebuild????? in reply to Alabama, 11-16-2001 10:17:14  
I don't think that is a very good judge of engine condition. I don't believe that these tractors were made to start out in road gear. If you would like a better test, do a compression or leak down test.

Steven



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Sven

11-16-2001 10:47:27




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 Re: M need a rebuild????? in reply to Alabama, 11-16-2001 10:17:14  
Hey, I have a W-6 and 5th gear is so fast that I wouldn't think about using that gear on anything other than pavement. As far as starting on a hill in 5th yeah it could do it but not without alot of throttle. Yours sounds normal.



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Alabama

11-16-2001 10:59:04




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 Re: Re: M need a rebuild????? in reply to Sven, 11-16-2001 10:47:27  
Thanks, I thought she was running pretty well...5th is pretty darn fast. First time I got her in an open field I thought I would try 5th... had to hold on for dear life... Now 5th doesn't get used much.



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Cary

11-16-2001 11:12:11




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 Re: Re: Re: M need a rebuild????? in reply to Alabama, 11-16-2001 10:59:04  
My H won't go into fifth..every time I let the clutch out it pops out. Figured I'd never really use fifth so haven't worried about it.



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Denny Frisk

11-16-2001 14:31:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: M need a rebuild????? in reply to Cary, 11-16-2001 11:12:11  
H's have a hard time making the jump from the 5 MPH 4th into 5th, so almost everyone hurried the shift by grinding the heck out of the 5th gear. It only engages with little splines about 1/4" wide and if you grind them too much they will pop out of gear. I used to be able to double clutch and shift from 3rd all the way up into 5th and back down when I was hauling in corn with My Super H. I always thought gear clashing was abuse!

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Dick

11-16-2001 10:36:56




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 Re: M need a rebuild????? in reply to Alabama, 11-16-2001 10:17:14  
Sounds normal to me, that what mine does and she runs just fine..My 2 cents



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