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400 cyclo planter

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02-27-2007 09:46:04




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I am in the process of buying an 8 row 400 planter I have the choice b/w an 8-30 and an 8-36. My question is can the 8-36 be narrowed to 8-30"s or is it only workable in wide rows. I have been doing some reading on the 400 and am aware of most of their problems but was looking for any more advise on seed spacing and depth control. I"ll probably only run 3-4 mph in a strip tilled field - will this work or would you rocommend full width tillage for this planter. Would pull with my mm670 (70hp) or 730 case (60hp)do you think thats enough hp. I am only planning on using this setup for a couple of years until I can buy a blue or green 7000. I run 80 acres of corn and beans but will expand to 500 over the next 5 years.

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James22

02-27-2007 16:52:13




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 Re: 400 cyclo planter in reply to 730, 02-27-2007 09:46:04  
The parts book shows two different frames for the 8 narrow and 8 wide, so to convert the 8 wide to a narrow you are going to drill some holes at least for the planter lift rods. The wheel frame assembly is different and somehow you are going to have to modify the wheel mounts so that the tire isn't on the row. Not worth it in my book for an old model 400 planter. Depth control is a major issue. On the late planters IH offered gauge wheels, but you couldn't use the preferred seed covering disks, instead you had to use the seed covering blades. If you are determined to use a 400 and it doeesn't have any gauge wheels, better plan on calling the salvage yards to locate some and be sure to also get the blades. Depth bands which attach to the double disk openers were also offered for a short period of time, but they were junk unless you have a clean tilled field. At least one aftermarket gauge wheel attachment was sold which would allow you to keep the disk closures. They work great, I installed them on my 400 and they have so far kept the planter from being scrapped, although I'm looking at upgrading to either a 900 or 950. No JD finger style pickups for me, but going to a White 6000 series planter is being considered. My drum has also been completely wrapped with a stainless steel sheet which had holes punched for each of the seed dimples. The outside surface of the sheet is even with the dimple projection, so that the seed drum wheel can "press" out the seed without having to ascend and then descend the dimple ramp. This helps seed drum jerk and the effect is comparable to what was done on the 955 drums. A heck of a lot better than using foam strips between the dimple holes. If I purchase a 900 or 950 I will have the corn drum modified in the same manner. No problem using the 400 on strip till, and 70 hp at 3-4 mph will work OK. At one time I heard/read that a single fan requires somewhere between 15 and 25 hp.

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RustyFarmall

02-27-2007 13:43:21




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 Re: 400 cyclo planter in reply to 730, 02-27-2007 09:46:04  
If you will be hiring a combine you should get the 8-30. I think either of the two tractors you have will handle it, but that 8 row planter will be quite a load for them.



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