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half turn steering slop IN farmall A

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Chad from Michi

03-06-2007 04:14:00




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Ok I started looking at my A and never looked at the steerting but I did last night and I tightened it up at the steering arms buy loosing up the set screw adjusting the loc nut and tightening it back up that helped a bunch. But my problem is in my steering box. I never noticed it when I loaded it on the trailer.
There is a good 1/2 turn of play in the steering wheel to get the wheels to turn. Is there an adjustment or am I looking at pulling the lower housing off and turning the steering selecter gear 180 degrees around?
Any suggestions?
Chad

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Dave Sherburne NY

03-06-2007 07:15:30




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 Re: half turn steering slop IN farmall A in reply to Chad from Michigan, 03-06-2007 04:14:00  
This problem has been discussed several times on this Forum. There are several places which could be
worn and causing your problem. You have already addressed one But on a tractor with that much slop
you will have to get into the steering box where you will find a vertical shaft with a worn keyway.
and a sector gear in which the keyway probrobly isn't worn bad.Also in there are bushings and seals
you have to replace. Plan on doing it all. The vertical shaft will have a square end on the bottom
where the outside steering arm is clamped on. To
bad, its worn out. Now if you plan on keeping the
tractor forever, You replace the vertical shaft with one from a newer model, which has a tapered
end on the bottom. $90 on Ebay. The sector gear will fit the shaft, but the steering arm won't
so you will have to go to your IH dealer and get a
new steering arm, not cheap. AND you have to get the one that fits you tierod ends. Replace these pieces and the shim Scotty mentions and all the seals and shims in there and
it will be better than new. CHEAPSKATE SOLUTION You still have to take off the steering
box. Replace the seals and sleeves,put in the
shim washer, Fix the keyway, but you still have the problem of the steering arm clamp on the square shaft. Shim it with some real thin sheet
metal and clamp it on tight.

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scotty

03-06-2007 06:34:54




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 Re: half turn steering slop IN farmall A in reply to Chad from Michigan, 03-06-2007 04:14:00  
Mornin Chad, In addition to what Gene mentioned allready. You can also cut down on the amount of slop at the wheel by using a shim washer between the large hex nut on the outside of the steering box and the outer race of the bearing on the end of the steering shaft. I did a complete overhaul on the steering and only have about an 1 1/2" of play at the wheel. I dont imagine it was much better from the factory.


scotty

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gene bender

03-06-2007 04:30:22




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 Re: half turn steering slop IN farmall A in reply to Chad from Michigan, 03-06-2007 04:14:00  
The gear is not full circle but does have a key that is worn plus the bearing on the end of the steering shaft. Tear it down put in new bushings and seals, bearings and fill with 90wt and you will have new steering. Parts will run 50.00. Take the large nut off the front of the sector and remove the steering wheel and the shaft will screw out the front. You will have to remove the pin the axle pivots and the u-shaped bracket that acts as a stop then the whole axle can be removed then the steering box can be separated. Then with new bearings ,bushings and seals and replace the key job is complete. I have done several last few yrs always have good results.

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Chad from Michigan

03-06-2007 06:25:38




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 Re: half turn steering slop IN farmall A in reply to gene bender, 03-06-2007 04:30:22  
how lucky will I get that just the key is worn and not the key way also? If I can get the shaft out along with the gear I can have a new keyway cut in the shop at work.
I was hopping to not have to drop the front end off. But I will be cutting grass and will need good steering.
Chad
Gene do you have a list of bearings and seals I will need to get?
Chad



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gene bender

03-06-2007 19:00:56




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 Re: half turn steering slop IN farmall A in reply to Chad from Michigan, 03-06-2007 06:25:38  
any bearing place can get a new one just take the old one with you same with seals and bushings. Your local dealer can get them mine does. Sometimes there are the parts on e-bay he has all the parts for less than 50



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gene bender

03-06-2007 18:57:32




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 Re: half turn steering slop IN farmall A in reply to Chad from Michigan, 03-06-2007 06:25:38  
Wait till you have it apart ther is no use worring about something that mite not be as those bearings can give lots of play them selves. You can always peen the keyway and shim also even peen the new key,usually the key is worn



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Dave Sherburne NY

03-06-2007 07:21:50




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 Re: half turn steering slop IN farmall A in reply to Chad from Michigan, 03-06-2007 06:25:38  
It's usually just the key but if not you can have a
new keyway cut 180 degrees fron the old on. SEE
MY POST ABOVE. With a machine shop available to you
maybe you could turn you old steering arm into the
newer style

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