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Bizarre - Field Caught on Fire While Plowing

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Bill in NC

03-24-2007 16:42:02




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Was plowing my red clay, rocky garden patch here in central NC this afternoon. My 140 was bellowing in first gear as my 2-14 plow was digging deep. I smelled smoke and then saw smoke drift by me. I turned around and there was a 3 foot diameter patch ablaze along the furrow where I had just been. Jumped off the tractor ran over to the nearby woods, broke off a cedar limb and stamped out the brush fire of last years garden thatch.

The 140 has a top side muffler. Nothing was on fire on the tractor. I'm stumped as to what caused the brush fire next to the furrow. The wheels were slipping big time as I juggled the touch-control levers to keep the tractor going forward while keeping the plow down deep. Can a slipping drive tire create enough friction to set dried grass/stalks on fire? Do you reckon it was two rocks being ground under the wheel setting off sparks? Anyone seen this happen while plowing under heavy load?

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Janicholson

03-25-2007 10:27:09




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 Re: Bizarre - Field Caught on Fire While Plowing in reply to Bill in NC, 03-24-2007 16:42:02  
The exhaust stack on Tractors with mounted pickers for Corn, Cotton, and others possibly, could be (were suposed to be) equipped with a spark arestor (IH accessory) to prevent just that sequence of events. We had one, (might still) It is about 4" diameter, and 6" long cast Iron with internal baffles (not a muffler) JimN



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Jimmy King

03-25-2007 06:14:47




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 Re: Bizarre - Field Caught on Fire While Plowing in reply to Bill in NC, 03-24-2007 16:42:02  
I never have, but one time my Dad was mowing hay and set the field on fire when a section hit a rock. I have never used a bottom plow, but when plowing with a bottom disk plow I have seem a lot of sparks in rocky areas. We are in a heavly equipped area with flint rocks, when plowing you can smell the smoke from the flint some times.



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georgeky

03-24-2007 23:43:47




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 Re: Bizarre - Field Caught on Fire While Plowing in reply to Bill in NC, 03-24-2007 16:42:02  
When I was in high school, I was sitting on the porch one hot dry August day and heard the strangest squeeling noise getting closer and closer. When it finally came into sight is was neighbor in his old Dodge Wrecker pulling a junk car with no tires or a dolly under the back. I don't think it even had brake drums on it. He passed the house at 50 or 60 mph and sparks were coming out from under that car in a stream 8 to 10 feet long it appeared. In a while we heard sirens blasting towards us, as it turned out he started 11 fires on the side of the road in various places throughout a 7 mile stretch of road and he never let off that old Dodge it had a 440 with three 2 barrel carbs on it. I bet he don't drive it much these days with 2.50 a gallon gas.

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Mike CA

03-24-2007 21:26:58




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 Re: Bizarre - Field Caught on Fire While Plowing in reply to Bill in NC, 03-24-2007 16:42:02  
NC is Tobaco country. Phillip-Morris has turned ground hogs to smoking. It's sad, really, to see such cute critters ruining their tender lungs. Anyway, they probably saw you coming, got scared, and tossed their lit cigarettes away and ran into a hole, thereby starting the fire.

Now you know. Cigarettes are dangerous!!



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Hugh MacKay

03-24-2007 19:36:42




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 Re: Bizarre - Field Caught on Fire While Plowing in reply to Bill in NC, 03-24-2007 16:42:02  
Bill: If it's dry enough don't say never from plow striking a rock, although it's highly unlikely. I remember once in the forests of Nova Scotia. It had become so dry DNR cancelled all recreational travel in forests. The forest industry was still working, but each machine had to be equiped with a water tank. They had been off for a long weekend.

On the first morning back, an excavator started 6 fires travelling 500'. Those were started from tracks of the machine coming in contact with rocks. That probably created far more preasure between rock and steel than your 140 with plow would do.

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Bob M

03-24-2007 17:25:25




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 Re: Bizarre - Field Caught on Fire While Plowing in reply to Bill in NC, 03-24-2007 16:42:02  
Sounds like your tractor threw a chunk of red hot carbon up the exhaust which then came down and ignited stuff on the ground. Especially likely if the tractor has been worked only lightly before going to work on the plow. Then they'll throw all sorts of stuff out the stack when first worked hard.

We had a stubble fire start exactly this way at a plow day late last summer.



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RayP(MI)

03-24-2007 17:06:59




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 Re: Bizarre - Field Caught on Fire While Plowing in reply to Bill in NC, 03-24-2007 16:42:02  
Is it possible that your tractor threw out a spark from the muffler, in the exhaust stream? I've seen sparks flying out of tractor exhaust when working after dark.



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Bill in NC

03-24-2007 18:40:28




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 Re: Bizarre - Field Caught on Fire While Plowing in reply to RayP(MI), 03-24-2007 17:06:59  
My 140 does not get much work as it is a small garden patch. When I first started today, the tractor wouldn't take a load and was cutting out pulling a 5 foot disk harrow. I nursed it along and after a while it got squared away and started pulling fine. I figured it was a spark plug loading up and cutting out. Maybe it was carbon. A hot carbon chunk sounds plausible to me.

It returned me to my youth getting that evergreen limb and beating out the fire. We used to burn off fields and ditch banks. We slapped with pine boughs to keep the fire from getting onto the neighbor's land.

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A. Bohemian

03-24-2007 18:34:05




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 Happens all the time here... in reply to RayP(MI), 03-24-2007 17:06:59  
Well, not while PLOWING; we usually do that in late fall, winter, or early spring when there tends to be some moisture.

But any time of the year it"s very dry, it is common for a mower blade to hit a rock and cause a spark which ignites dry grass...happens every late summer somewhere in our region during haymaking. You see it on our local news two, three times a year.

I don"t see why a plow blade couldn"t do the same thing under the right circumstances, although it"s much less likely. A mower blade has so much more velocity. But then, the plow blade hits more rocks...

But I"ve also seen sparks fly from old tractor and lawn mower mufflers after dark. These wouldn"t have much heat in them, although their temperature is high enough to make them incandescent. I"ve got to think they"d still be more likely to start a fire than a spark thrown from a plow.

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