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Super C govenor

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whompuscat

04-18-2007 07:35:24




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The problem that I have is that the govenor does not open under a load. I belive my govenor is in very good condition, However after a discussion, I tried to set my high speed linkage last night, I put the throttle lever at full throttle and disconnected the throttle clevis pin from the govenor arm. Whith the carb at full open the rod was too long. I screwed the clivis in to match the govenor arm but it will not screw far enough to match the pin holes. But it did work better.

Should I adjust the govenor's arm?

Got any ideas?

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gene bender

04-18-2007 18:27:41




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 Re: Super C govenor in reply to whompuscat, 04-18-2007 07:35:24  
If having the throttle open and then holding carb open and clevis wont adjust you mite have the arm on the throttle shaft of the carb out of whack therefore you cant set the linkage correct, Iwould get the little kit for that carb only around 15 bucks and includes a new throttle shaft along with needle and seat with gasket. I have seen this before that the lever on the throttle shaft has "spun" and thus screwed up the settings.

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whompuscat

04-18-2007 11:00:38




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 Re: Super C govenor in reply to whompuscat, 04-18-2007 07:35:24  
I have checked and I have good resistance on the govenor arm.. It just seems the throttle arm is too long going from the govenor arm to the carb.



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A. Bohemian

04-18-2007 10:27:20




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 I Don't Know What to Say. in reply to whompuscat, 04-18-2007 07:35:24  
Okay, I went out and checked the governor operation on my Super C.

It was much as you described: that is, with the speed control lever at full advance, the rockshaft arm went all the way back. With the throttle rod pulled all the way back toward the carb, AS PER THE MANUAL, the holes on the clevis pin did NOT line up with the hole in the rockshaft arm! The throttle rod, as adjusted, was much too long.

With the speed control lever at lowest speed the rockshaft arm went forward (away from the carb) as it is supposed to. Then with the throttle rod moved all the way forward, the pin and holes DID match. Perfectly.

I don't know what to tell you. Mine is a good running tractor that pulls very, very well, idles smoothly, and except for normal wear on the linkages, etc., shows no signs of governor problems.

I stress that it pulls VERY well. I don't like to use it for heavy work, but this spring the Ford 2600 was out of commission for a while, so I had to use the Super C to plow up my orchard expansion. The C pulled the two-bottom sulky plow at full depth through tight soil that had not been tilled in eleven years with NO problems.

(While I was messing with the throttle rod I moved the fuel line to get a good look and the damn thing sprung a leak. It is very old and brittle and could well have been the original. Off to the Case dealer.)

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Red Dave

04-18-2007 08:18:49




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 Re: Super C govenor in reply to whompuscat, 04-18-2007 07:35:24  
Have you verified whether that arm from the governor to the carburator actually moves the throttle plate in the carburator from full closed to full open in it's range of motion?

Is it the original carburator? if it's not, maybe that rod isn't the correct length for that carburator.

There isn't much other external linkage to adjust. You may have to open the governor up to find the trouble. Don't worry, they aren't that hard to work on. Just make sure you have a good parts diagram so it gets back together right.

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A. Bohemian

04-18-2007 08:14:32




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 STOP! WAIT! IMPORTANT! I SCREWED UP! in reply to whompuscat, 04-18-2007 07:35:24  
My eyesight is failing, and I read the word "toward"
as "forward."

The correct reading is, "Hold the rockshaft arm as far toward the the carburetor as they will go."

It sounds to me like you figured out the correct answer on your own: with the speed control lever in wide open position, the carb should be at full throttle.

But it also sounds like you may have forgotten to move the rockshaft arm towards the carburetor also.

Sorry for the confusion.

I'd still like to know what you found when you did the resistance to movement check.

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Bob

04-18-2007 08:08:47




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 Re: Super C govenor in reply to whompuscat, 04-18-2007 07:35:24  
1.) IIRC, the arm is KEYED to the shaft, and CAN'T be repositioned.

2.) It's been a while since I've done one of these, so I can't recall "long" or "short", but the carb throttle shaft needs to reach the end of movement in the "wide open" direction" a fraction of a pinhole BEFORE the movement of the rod from the governor arm reaches the end of it's movement.



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georgeky

04-18-2007 08:02:51




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 Re: Super C govenor in reply to whompuscat, 04-18-2007 07:35:24  
Does the arm look like it has been bent? alot of them have been.



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A. Bohemian

04-18-2007 08:02:37




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 Nu? in reply to whompuscat, 04-18-2007 07:35:24  
Have you checked the resistance to movement with the engine not running and then running?



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