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560D fast hitch/ hydraulic ??

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Clefus

04-30-2007 18:48:21




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Hello....new to the forum but have been reading for a few months...
I bought a 560D e few months ago....and just bought a 3 btm fasthitch plow to plow with...

I initially had the plow hooked up and it would pick it up off the ground....
I then discovered the bottom cylinder bracket ear was broken and welded that.....then I thought I would check the tranny fluid level...
I pulled the squareheaded plug midway on the tractors left side and fluid gushed....about to the tune of 5 or so gallons...I thought this may have been due to water in it because of the color....
Now the fast hitch cylinder only goes up about 3 or 4 inches and the lever is against the stop...I even added most of the oil I drained out ex for some that spilled..and when I was filling it it spit fluid drops out the filler...

Does it need more fluid??
....air in the cylinder??
need a filter change??
Any adjustments to make??

The pump does whine a slight bit and didnt seem to do that before messing with the fluids...

Any help would be appreciated..
I did a search but couldnt find anything specific to my ailment...I only messed with letter series tractors ( small scale farm) before and want to get to work asap with the 560...thanks

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Hugh MacKay

05-01-2007 02:50:25




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 Re: 560D fast hitch/ hydraulic ?? in reply to Clefus, 04-30-2007 18:48:21  
Clefus: What happens if you unhitch the plow? Will the hydraulic then lift the hitch? I agree with George these tractor do need to run a bit overfull on hydraulic-transmission oil, but not 5 gallons over.

My advice would be change hydraulic oil and filter, and make sure you use Hytran or equivilant. 460 and 560 were very sensitive to wrong oil. These were the first tractors IH used a hydraulic filter rather than a screen, thus that oil must be correct.

A good working hydraulic system will eliminate any air with use. A plugged or poor flow hydraulic filter with make toast of a hydraulic pump in less than 5 minutes. The filter is on suction side and a hydraulic pump without oil will last almost as long as engine with no crankcase oil.

I suspect your pump is toast, but try the oil and filter first.

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Clefus

05-01-2007 19:31:49




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 Re: 560D fast hitch/ hydraulic ?? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-01-2007 02:50:25  
Thanks guys..
Hugh....the plow was unhitched when I was trying to diagnose the problem....I read the replies after work and went out to play with it....
I added a little more fluid...still same thing..

Then I unhooked the linkage that runs from the fh cylinder to the control valve under the dash....(is this called the tele- depth rod??)...and now the hitch works fine with a combo of manually running the valve lever from cylinder and using the regular control lever...kinda play with one then the other....

Doing that I can back into the plows and raise them up fine for transport....
But I need it to work right for plowing...

I plan to change fluid/filter in a few weeks...does Napa carry them or IH dealer ??

Also what is the function of the notched lever with handle on the left side of the platform going to the hitch??

Thanks again...

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georgeky

05-01-2007 20:13:46




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 Re: 560D fast hitch/ hydraulic ?? in reply to Clefus, 05-01-2007 19:31:49  
The notched handle is the draft control for the hitch. Place it in the notch that makes your plow pull the easiest. Some of these seem to work well and others do not. If you notice below that handle there is a cam system that is suppose to change the position of the hitch while plowing. It is suppose to change the angle of the plow automatically when you hit tough spots in the field.



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JayWalt

04-30-2007 20:58:14




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 Re: 560D fast hitch/ hydraulic ?? in reply to Clefus, 04-30-2007 18:48:21  
clefus, I would drain the fluid completely and put new in if it looks like it needs it. Also replace the filter while your at it, then fill it up and you should be good to go.

George is right, either the pump is sucking air, or it is being captivated (sp) due to a clogged filter. It needs to be addressed ASAP.



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RON MN.,

04-30-2007 20:52:53




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 Re: 560D fast hitch/ hydraulic ?? in reply to Clefus, 04-30-2007 18:48:21  
HAVE YOU CHECKED THE FILTER,W/ENG. OFF FLUID SHOULD BE LEVEL W/PLUG. MAKE SURE LINKAGE FROM HITCH TO HYD.VALVE IS ALSO FREE.WE HAVE A 3-16 FULLY MOUNTED PLOW NO PROBLEM W/ LIFTING GOOD LUCK



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georgeky

04-30-2007 18:53:19




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 Re: 560D fast hitch/ hydraulic ?? in reply to Clefus, 04-30-2007 18:48:21  
You may need to add more fluid back to your tractor. Some of them tend to suck air which could be whining the pump. It will not hurt it to run over full. I run my 666 over full for that reason.



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