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nspec

05-14-2007 17:58:14




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Saw a good idea on e-bay. Guy had an h for sale, and on the operators deck, (the top cover of the gear housing), he had what looked like really nice non-skid tape cut to fit on each side where your feet would go. It looks like it would cover all those recessed bolt heads and prevent water from leaking into the gear housing.

What do you all think?




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gene bender

05-14-2007 19:09:14




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 Re: keeping water out of gears in reply to nspec, 05-14-2007 17:58:14  
When your tractor is in a shed you dont have the problem.



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chadd

05-15-2007 04:44:07




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 Re: keeping water out of gears in reply to gene bender, 05-14-2007 19:09:14  
Of course, if you don't have a shed, and can't afford a shed, it is a little useless to say that you wouldn't have the problem if you had one. I doubt he will build a shed just to keep water out of the rear end of his tractor!!!

I don't know if it will help or not, but ours stand outside every day of the year and have since at least 1980 and we have yet to get water in our M or W6 rear ends.



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nspec

05-15-2007 06:13:45




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 Re: keeping water out of gears in reply to chadd, 05-15-2007 04:44:07  
hey, thanks for defending me on the shed!

at issue with mine is the fact that the heads of the bolts are somewhat rusted - look like they've never been touched. I think I could get them out if I have to. Would like to replace them with new so as to keep the water out. How hard do you figure it is to get them out?



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Nat 2

05-15-2007 07:40:55




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 Re: keeping water out of gears in reply to nspec, 05-15-2007 06:13:45  
I don't understand. Why do you think replacing the bolts will help with water penetration?

The best thing you can do is do whatever it takes to keep your tractor from sitting out in the rain. No shed? Get a tarp. A nice canvas tarp is a lot less expensive than tens of gallons of gear oil every few months.



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chadd

05-15-2007 07:51:35




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 Re: keeping water out of gears in reply to Nat 2, 05-15-2007 07:40:55  
I used a tarp once over the whole tractor and will not do that again. I covered the W6 with a tarp and it dropped from 60 degrees to 20's and rain turned to ice and snow. Half way through winter, I went out to uncover and start the tractor and the motor wouldn't turn over. That was when I noticed everything was covered with frost and frozen condensation. Condensation formed in the cylinders with open valves and froze on the cylinder walls. Took us forever to thaw it out enough that it would turn over. Luckily it didn't damage anything. As long as everything is properly sealed, standing outside isn't such a big deal. It is harder on the paint than anything else.

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chadd

05-15-2007 07:15:01




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 Re: keeping water out of gears in reply to nspec, 05-15-2007 06:13:45  
Are you having problems with water getting in? How much water do you think? Is it enough that when you just open the drain plug a crack, water flows out for a while before any oil comes out? Or is it just that the fluid gets a milky appearance? If it is just a little bit of moisture, that is normal and is caused by temperature changes making water vapor in the air condense in the rear end. If it is a sizeable amount of water, then it is probably coming from the bolts you mentioned. I was able to remove the ones on our 1940 M with a 1/2 inch drive ratchet and a socket and a little yanking. It wasn't really bad. It all depends though. On ours, the threads were still clean and there was no rust in them, so water wasn't getting in there. If you replace them, you might consider putting some silicone or something under it just as some additional security. It's always my policy not to touch something unless I really need to, because a 5 minute project usually ends up becoming a month long affair.

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A. Bohemian

05-15-2007 10:57:34




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 This Just In! in reply to chadd, 05-15-2007 07:15:01  
Quote: "When your tractor is not to be used for some time, it should be stored in a dry and protected place. Leaving your tractor outdoors, exposed to the elements, will result in materially shortening it's life."

That's hard to argue with, but this being the internet...

Look at it this way; if you had a shed available, would you still keep your otherwise carefully maintained tractor outside? Why not?

That's what I thought.

You can get one of those little carports for under a grand and add some kind of siding to it. It's not that big a deal and it's the right thing to do; and on some level almost everyone would acknowledge that.

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chadd

05-15-2007 14:25:25




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 Re: This Just In! in reply to A. Bohemian, 05-15-2007 10:57:34  
Obviously, if you have a shed that wasn't being used for anything else, it would make sense to put it in it. My point was simply if they don't have a shed, it is a little pointless to just suggest that their problem would be solved by getting one. Obviously there is some reason they feel that they don't need or can't obtain a shed, and that is not our business to argue. We don't have a shed currently available, and probably won't get one in the next 2 years, and I maintain them exactly as mentioned in the owners manual and repair whatever mechanical problem arises. I won't lose sleep over them sitting outside.

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