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Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed!

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Steven@AZ

05-24-2007 19:10:46




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A little background information for those that might not know me: Grew up on the farm in ND, love old tractors - have several, moved to AZ after graduating college and getting married for jobs. Love our jobs, nice weather, good pay, etc.

After three years we are settled and pretty much out of debt so I can get down to some projects. I have somewhat decided that I would like to restore my Farmall A to its former glory. Been toying with the idea of a hot rod, older car or truck, maybe my IH L-120, etc. I think the A will be easy to fit in the garage and will be enjoyable when its done.

The A was running good and I used it for several years to mow with until I ended up dropping one of the front wheels in a hole and breaking the steering box casting... we fixed that and I continued using it for a short time after, until it started burning a fair amount of oil and the oil pressure started dropping.

Currently it has been sitting in the back of the barn for about four years, last had it running about a year ago. It isn't stuck but wouldn't start when I was home in April. I don't think it was getting any fuel. Shouldn't be any trouble to get it fired up again.

Main obstacle right now is getting it from ND to AZ without breaking the budget for the restoration! Once I get home the end of June I will post on the hauling board to see if I can find anything... or I will try to find a reasonably priced pickup to haul it down and then sell the pickup.

Tell me it's worth the time, effort, and cash! (I know deep down that it is, just like to hear it from others!) Just looking for some discussion and stories of restorations.

Current resting place:
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Several years ago:
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Pictures of my collection...

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Hugh MacKay

05-25-2007 16:21:26




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to Steven@AZ, 05-24-2007 19:10:46  
Steven: Of course you should get on with the A project. Here in Canada, I've declared it should be an offence to have a non running offset Farmall. We all know full well Steven in AZ probably doesn't have as much room as Steven ND once had, there you have it, Farmall A makes perfect sence.

Now the last time we talked there was some talk of another generation of Gusseys. If your going to work in AZ and summer in ND, and if your going to have another generation, then you need tractors both in AZ and ND. As I type Marg. and I are waiting for a 13 month old garndson and parrents to arive for the weekend. Even two months ago he was interested in my 1/16 tractors. I will have two tractors out tomorrow, I expect I'll see a young lad in both seats before the day is over.

You have no choice, the tools of restoration must work in unison with the tools of reproduction. The tractor must be ready for the new Gussey.

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Steven@AZ

05-26-2007 15:02:09




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-25-2007 16:21:26  
Thanks, Hugh! Yes, we are working on the next generation series of Gusseys! Hopefully by this time next year we'll have a tricycle motor... lol

I'll get it down here, might take a little time to organize the effort but it will get down here. Kids need time at the farm to run around and learn about real life - you just don't get the experiences you need living in town. It is unfortunate that the jobs that make the next generation possible are in town, but that's reality.

Thanks again, Hugh!

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Steven@AZ

05-26-2007 15:01:41




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-25-2007 16:21:26  
Thanks, Hugh! Yes, we are working on the Hopefully by this time next year we'll have a tricycle motor... lol

I'll get it down here, might take a little time to organize the effort but it will get down here. Kids need time at the farm to run around and learn about real life - you just don't get the experiences you need living in town. It is unfortunate that the jobs that make the next generation possible are in town, but that's reality.

Thanks again, Hugh!

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SiouxFan

05-25-2007 06:42:50




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to Steven@AZ, 05-24-2007 19:10:46  
What part of ND did you grow up? I went to school in a small town named Edgeley south of Jamestown and my dad had a farm near McHenry that we spend summers at. I graduated from UND in 88.

We had an M that I learned to drive tractor on which I bought at auction when dad retired. I now live in the Washington DC area and have a Super A and two Super Cs (and the M that is still sitting in the pole barn). I haven't restored them but I have done a lot of work to get them to function correctly mechanically and will eventually clean them up a bit but for now I am having so much fun using them I don't want them to be in such good shape that I am afraid to get them dirty (I have a belly mower on the Super A and an aftermarket 3pt on the Super C which is surprisingly useful).

I too would like to get back to ND someday but don't see it in the cards for awhile. In the meantime I spend time on my little farmalls and when I do I think back about all the good times I had as a kid in that part of the country and of family and friends. My wife had been on my case for awhile to get rid of all my junk tractors and buy a new one that doesn't need any work but I think she finally realized that my farmalls were serving a much bigger role than simply mowing grass as I am generally in a better mood about work and life in DC after spending time tinkering.

Anyway... this post doesn't answer any of the questions you raise but thought I would let you know there are others out there that have been transplanted from ND and see our farmalls as the bridge that takes us back in time.

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Steven@AZ

05-25-2007 13:14:27




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to SiouxFan, 05-25-2007 06:42:50  
My wife is from Ashley, ND which is close to Edgeley. I've been there several times to look at equipment.

I'm from the SW corner of the state, about 40 miles south of Dickinson. Close to both MT and SD...

Thanks for the reply, I know someday I hope to get moved back to ND... it's just a matter of time.



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Al L. in Wisc.

05-25-2007 05:51:11




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 JUST GET @ IT!!! in reply to Steven@AZ, 05-24-2007 19:10:46  
Steven, I took a peek at your photobucket and am wonderin" how that balance mower works in the snow? I was thinkin" "bout getin" a balance mower for my 340 w/factory w.f. and here in Vernon County we just us them in the green season. Now I am thinkin" maybe I should look for one w/rear wheel drive like you have. I think you need to dirty up that garage of yours a little and some strategically places sheet metal, wheels/tires, headlights, degreaser pans, shop manual(s) on top of the washing machine would look appropriate. I think you have the makin"s for a tractor ride! Send the Canadian (Hugh), southwest of his place via wife to N.D. Next, Hugh drops the "A" off at Allan in Neb. place....and so on. I"m sure you can arrange it...by the end of the weekend, volunteers will be posting on this board for you! Myself, there is something about a tractor in its work clothes I just really like. Clear coating, several drops of black paint with the Farmall red, etc. just isn"t what this Norske appreciates, but then...2 each his/her own. A U-Haul box truck would work one way and who says U-Haul has to know what ya is a haulin". Did I say that???

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Steven@AZ

05-25-2007 13:16:40




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 Re: JUST GET @ IT!!! in reply to Al L. in Wisc., 05-25-2007 05:51:11  
That is the semi-mount 120 mower I bought on eBay this winter. Picked it up when I was home in April. Needs a little work and fine tuning, but I think it will be a decent mower when I'm done. Now I have that and my mid-mount 1110 and Dad's 100 trailer type.

My garage is usually worse than that... those pics were right after a thorough cleaning and organization!

I'm sure with the help of YTmag I'll get the tractor down here!

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JayWalt

05-24-2007 21:45:37




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to Steven@AZ, 05-24-2007 19:10:46  
Randy, I'm 27. If I was financially settled for retirement, I would find me a nice little tractor suitable for my needs (unlike the 300u, its too big), and I would restore it for sure.

Right now I got about 25,000$ in certificates, and about 8,000 grand in 401k. Not too bad for 3 years since I started saving. It helps to live at home with dad. I still feel I dont have money to blow. My friends who Know what I have are always mad at me cause i never like to spend money.

I cant trust the govt for SSI, nor my workplace for a pension since they obliterated it and put 3% of our pay into our 401k and thats our pension. I dont count on 401k either because I just know something is going to screw us all, like stock market collapse or something.

Sure Theres alot I could have but dont, but I'll be damned if I'm going to work myself to death =

Go for the restore dude!! I would if I felt I had the money. Just remember, seals here, bearings there, paint here, paint there, bolts here, mchine shop there adds up quite a bit. Be prepared to take a while because of the way these things go and to be less a burden on the budget.

If you do decide to, I'm sure we'd all love to see progress pics!!

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SuperA-Tx

05-24-2007 20:33:50




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to Steven@AZ, 05-24-2007 19:10:46  
You know you want to so just go ahead and do it. lol That tractor will be easy to fix up since the motor is in good shape, mean it aint stuck or cracked block, nothing major.

Dont you have a buddy that has a pickup? If you do then really all you need is a 16 foot flat bed trailer to haul that tractor.

Love that flat bed truck in your pics. I can come get it out of your way if you need the room.

Heres my SA I did last year, before and after. I would love to help someone work on theirs just for fun I had such a good time. After its done you will be so proud of the A you will drive it just to show it off and have people comment on it.

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HENRY E NC

05-24-2007 20:30:16




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to Steven@AZ, 05-24-2007 19:10:46  
No matter what, that A is a good project to keep you busy for a while. I have been working on one since last August slowly but every couple of days. Now I am replacing all the seals and bearings in the drive shaft, axles and transmmission. What fun. Its always a challenge to learn something new as I did today when I took to Governor apart on My M and found out it needs lots of new parts. Both down and out for a while. Anmyhoo, go ahead and tear into it.

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jonnnny2006

05-24-2007 19:50:53




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to Steven@AZ, 05-24-2007 19:10:46  
This A that you have is a real gem! I would giver her a over haul and make her fun to have around again! North dakota is where my wife is from... bismark n.d. or mandan n.d. We live in minnesota now and i have been to arizona 1 time. If i was you (this is strictly my opnion) I would see about getting back to your roots in north dakota. When I think noth dakota i see large fields and friendly people. When i think arizona i see desert and traffic, airplains and people that have no time to for the simple things in life. Here in the midwest out in the country, people are so friendly and helpful that it just makes you wanna be part of it and raise your children to enjoy the more simpler things in life. I would rather see a fresh mowed hayfied running along a clear river with kids playing and having fun, then see kids sitting inside watching tv and playing video games just tring to find somthing to do. Out in the country my kids can enjoy the tire swing swinging and laughing. I just do not picture that in my head when i think az. What about the winters? I love having 4 seasons and a warm fire that i cut the wood for out of my own woods. To me if i were you I would not bring the tractor AZ, But bring my family to my tractor in ND. It is all in what you enjoy I guess but I'm very thankful to be living right here in the midwest out in the country where rush hour is the neighbor bringing home some cattle and a few tractors coming home for supper. Well thats what i would do. but what ever you do decide that ol girl looks way to nice not to fix her back up. You over haul it and she will be good to go for another 30-50 years! then you can pass on a important part of history. Well good luck and just rember one thing.....If you ever get rid of it or part her out she will be gone forever.

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Steven@AZ

05-24-2007 20:17:27




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to jonnnny2006, 05-24-2007 19:50:53  
This tractor is not for sale. I bought it from the friend that got me started in the antique tractors with my F12 I also bought from him. Along with those I have a 1-1/2 horsepower JD hit-n-miss engine from him. He passed on too early in life, but he will always be remembered by me.

As for moving to ND - I would LOVE to! However, the pay is about 1/2 of what I get down here and the cost of living is not cheaper, it's actually more! We are in a nice place here and a quiet neighborhood, wonderful friends, and good jobs. We are in Bullhead City, across the Colorado River from Laughlin, NV and 100 miles from Las Vegas. Not yet a big time city, but not real small town either - and growing quickly. There are opportunities for getting out and playing in the sand... at least not always stuck in the house!

The only way we could move home to ND is for me to carry two jobs - then I can't really spend much time with my kids anyway (future kids, just working on getting the first now ;o) As we are teachers we have vacations and summer time to go to the family farms (both her parents and mine) and our children will learn and enjoy some life on the farm.

I'm getting some land in ND so I can have a small farm to retire to when the time comes. I miss ND, I miss the clean air and wide open spaces and the friendly people... unfortunately the job opportunities are not adequate for our current needs. Maybe someday it will work out better...

Thank you, johnnnny2006, for your thoughts~!

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Ron in Nebr

05-24-2007 22:43:47




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 Re: Farmall A restoration - encouragement needed! in reply to Steven@AZ, 05-24-2007 20:17:27  
Hey Steven, that's a nice A ya have there! Been reading your posts for a couple years now, about your W-9s, etc etc. Have a Super A and a 650 myself so alot of your posts have helped me. When the time comes you'll find a way to get that A down there.

I've spent some time in ND, and also down in AZ, had relations just down the road from ya in Lake Havasu.....anyway, wanted to comment on the "moving back to ND"....and I can tell from your post that it's not really an option right now for ya.....anyways, I've also been in that boat- about 9yrs ago I was working a good job in Omaha NE, went through a divorce, and moved back "home" to our place in western NE. Took a 50 percent pay cut, but I wouldnt go back. The kids love it here. I agree with ya about the cost of living too, "things" cost more out here than in a big city. But I've noticed also that once you're out here, you find you dont really NEED nearly as many "things" as before so it actually works out cheaper....not having stores right around the corner sure helps on the old budget- a person adapts and after awhile doesnt even miss it. Anyway, having lived in ND you're probably aware of all this already, but just thought I'd bring it up.

Good luck on the A project and I'll keep my ears open for anyone making a trip with an empty trailer in that direction!

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