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Hugh MacKay

05-28-2007 03:34:58




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My Woods belly mower on my Super A is leaving ridges, looks as though it is cutting lower on right side than left. My good wife tells me, it is because I always step on right side of mower getting on and off tractor, and I have sprung the gage wheel on the right.

The first couple of times I mowed this spring, I blamed it on dull blades and probably the left blade being a bit worse than other two. I sharpened them before my last week cutting. Very little difference in blade sharpness when I removed them. With all sharp blades it still did the same, ridge along the right side, next to last pass of left side.

Now, I beginning to believe the Mrs. I see what looks like spacer washers on the gage wheel shafts, never compared the two sides. Maybe I have to rearange these. Any thoughts. The mower wasn't doing this last fall. In fact this mower has always done such a nice job, two days after mowing you couldn't follow the path of travel.

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dionne

05-31-2007 12:33:56




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-28-2007 03:34:58  
I am having the same problem with my woods mower. The chain on one side broke. I have tried to wire it in, but the wire breaks. The other side has the chain link in a little slot. Then there is a round gizmo that Holds the chain in the keyhole. The other side apparantly this round gizmo is lost and fell out forever. Does anyone know the name of the round gizmo? All it is a round thing that plugs into the hole. I tried calling pine plains tractor part and explaining what was missing, but the guy didn't have a clue what I was talking about.

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Hugh MacKay

06-01-2007 03:00:26




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to dionne, 05-31-2007 12:33:56  
dionne: I lift my mower using only the right rockshaft. I have one chain down from right rockshaft, which splits to a Y about 8" from mower deck. My mower deck has notched loops about 14" apart, to which I hook each chain from the Y.

To keep mower from floping when traveling with it raised, I have 2x4 blocks U clamped to each mower push bar. These raise to touch stops I have bolted to front of final drives.

I solved my uneven cutting height with 3/4" thrust washers on spindle shaft of caster wheels. I went to a store that specializes in nuts, bolts, etc. he sold me these thrust washers in 3 different thickness. With these washers I was able get it same height both sides on concrete floor. Following that it worked fine out in the grass.

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Bob Kerr

05-28-2007 13:59:34




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-28-2007 03:34:58  
I have an L59 on a B6100 kubota and it is getting pretty wore out on the front casters. One caster was replaced 15 years ago and the other is still original so the soild tire wear is a factor on mine. Both casters need replacing now. The spacer washers on the casters are the height adjustment when mower is down, so definatly check those. also someone mentioned a bent spindle or bad bearing, spindle bent would cause swirls but a bad bearing on an outer spindle could cause blade to pull up on the outside. if it was that sloppy though I would think you could hear it growling.Good luck with it.

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Hugh MacKay

05-28-2007 17:24:47




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Bob Kerr, 05-28-2007 13:59:34  
Bob: Read what I said to Hass. The mower blade spindle bearings are good. I checked those when I had the blades off for sharpening. I probably grease those a bit too much as I give them each about 3 pumps every time I mow.

To all you folks Thanks, even Diana giving me that lecture for not listening.



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Haas

05-28-2007 10:13:42




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-28-2007 03:34:58  
By the way, I do the same thing you do. Step on the mower to mount the tractor. Need to get a step like you have.



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Hugh MacKay

05-28-2007 17:17:08




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Haas, 05-28-2007 10:13:42  
Haas: The arm coming out from deck that the right caster mounts on was bent, looks like caster wheel hit an obstacle during a right hand turn. Straightened that and reassembled then had to place a flat washer under it on caster spindle. This made it same height both sides.

I notice the pivot bolt that attaches back of deck to the cross member is worn badly, letting back of deck down a bit. If I jack in there until the pivot bolt comes straight, it gives right elevation front to rear. I'll take that apart tomorrow, fix the holes and replace the bolt.

This is about the first fixing I've done since I bought the mower used 4 years ago. This is one of the old 59HB-1 models, and I modified the mounting to fit the Super A Essentially I built the mounting hardware as nothing from the Farmall B fit. Fabricating the mounting and new blades were all I did back then. I didn't expect the belt to last as one end of it had been in a pool of oil before I bought the mower. I bought a new belt last year, however the old one is still going. Must have some good life left in it as the first time I mowed this spring I had about 8" of grass.

I don't mow a lot of ground, probably 1.5 acres, but some of it is quite rough. I just putter along in 1st gear, no point in busting things. I Have my blades set at 4", don't believe in scalping the ground, plus a long grass lawn doesn't burn up as fast in dry weather It takes me litle better than an hour to mow, right now about every 5 days. That will slack off as summer goes along.

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Haas

05-29-2007 10:56:31




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-28-2007 17:17:08  
I've also found that bolt at the back of the deck to be a weak point. Mine was reworked last year. The mower I am using, I purchased new in 1977. I used it to mow around 4 acres from then untill 1996 when I sold that place along with the tractor. I bought that tractor back last year along with the mower and all most of the stuff that I let go with it, including the manuals and even the bills for part I bought while I owned it. I rebuilt the mower deck last winter, complete with new paint and decals. A couple of the spindles may need replacement before too long, as the seals leak and they are getting a little noisy. I've found that those belts last and last. They way I use it, usually at least 4 or 5 years. I'm now using the mower for trim work around my farm, fence rows, etc. I've bought an after market belt as a spare instead of getting one through Woods. I've always used the belts from Woods before, so I'm curious to see how the generic belt works out.

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Hugh MacKay

05-29-2007 12:45:22




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Haas, 05-29-2007 10:56:31  
Hass: All done and working well, took it out to mow off the worst looking ridges I left two days ago. Got admiring the job it was doing, made a wrong turn under the low end of the clothsline. That is only the second time I ever took down a clothsline in all the years I've owned tractors. Oh well, at least I know the mufler, exhaust pipe and manifold of the Super A are solid.

The last time I took down a clothsline was the winter of 76. I'd been to the village welder with 656, putting the finishing touches on a used cab I had just installed. Tractor had loader on it with 84" snow bucket. It was dark when I left for home and a friend asked me if I'd push some snow behind his house, that his regular plow guy couldn't get to. I plowed the snow and went home. about two days later I walked behind the 656, and here was what looked like 200' of clothsline wraped around the rear axles. I milked my cows that night, all the time wondering where that damn clothsline came from. As I went to the house for the night, it hit me. Called Brenton, and said, "Have you got a clothsline behind your house?" He said, Yes, but my wife doesn't use it in winter." I said, "Would it be convenient to take a peek out the back door, because I don't believe you have a clothsline anymore." He checked and sure enough, no clothsline.

I suppose at 65, two clothslines lifetime is not bad. I wonder how many other guys have taken out the clothsline with a tractor?

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Haas

05-28-2007 10:12:03




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-28-2007 03:34:58  
Hugh, part of my regular annual maintenance on the Woods is to check the height on a level concrete floor. I've found that the thing tends to get out of level due to tire pressure, and the gage wheel brackets bending or slipping in the bolt holes. I adjust the side to side level with the gage wheel shims. John Deere makes a nice gage for checking the blade height. It's plastic and kind of pricey, but it beats laying on the floor and trying to measure the blade height. The mower blades need to be a little lower in the front so the sharp edges cut the grass first and of course level side to side.

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leroy in ne

05-28-2007 07:29:35




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-28-2007 03:34:58  
could be caused by bent blade, suggest checking, i have had this happen. leroy



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Hugh MacKay

05-28-2007 08:42:55




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to leroy in ne, 05-28-2007 07:29:35  
leroy: Thanks, but I thought of that and when I had the blades off for sharpening, I lined them up on a table and they are all the same. Read what I said to Del, it's the whole deck low on right.



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Diana JH

05-28-2007 06:48:13




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-28-2007 03:34:58  
Hugh!
Now how many years have you been married???

Don't ya know by now that you should ALWAYS listen to the wife?

Jeesh!



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Hugh MacKay

05-28-2007 08:30:17




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Diana JH, 05-28-2007 06:48:13  
Diana: 42 years next month, and she claims I rarely listen.



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DelMN

05-28-2007 03:54:40




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-28-2007 03:34:58  
In my opinion, the best way to check deck height is to put it on a level cement slab and measure the left and right sides and also front to back. Left to right should be the same, front slightly lower that back. Things that could cause it to tilt are tire pressure on the tractor, chain adjustment different. Also it could differences in the height that you mow. Check the above at the level that you mow. Bent spindle or bad bearing could also be a problem. Good luck!

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Hugh MacKay

05-28-2007 08:39:24




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 Re: All you Woods belly mower gurus in reply to DelMN, 05-28-2007 03:54:40  
Del: Since I posted, I took your suggestion, measuring on concrete floor. The entire mower unit is about 1/2" low on right side, and I can see a slight difference in gage wheels, however not enough to make the difference. I think the arm that gage wheel fastens to has moved on bolt holes back at the mower deck. Probably me stepping on that right side getting on and off tractor. I'll have to put my step from final drive back on.

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