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jonnnny2006

06-06-2007 20:55:00

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I just changed the oil on my 43 H and added what the book calls for.... 6 gallons of 90 wt oil. when i parked it i was dripping oil out the seals on both sides of the axles. when i pulled the old oil out i got just over 5 gallons out. I thought it might be dripping because it was a tad bit to full as it stopped drippping about 2 days later. there is a nice size puddle under each axle but no where near a gallon worth. the rear end seams to work just fine. i talked to the guy i bought it from and he said all he's ever done to it was grease it up once and a while.... whe i changed the oil it was a creamy color and my dad said that was the color of the oil, i din't care i changed it. I do alot of road gear driving with it and i never work the heck out of the lower gears. I know there is a check on the side of the tranny but i figured since i put in the correct amount after totally draining it it would be good. My question is this, the fluid that leaked out at the axles must be right at the top off point and what gear would be affected most by not having the extra half gallon or so in there? the guy i bought it from did work it hard and the tranny seams real nice, and all the gears hold. Plus when i did fill it up i thought it would quiet down the tranny a little and it did not. i could not notice the diffrence in fact i was wondering if i wasted 40 bucks on new oil? i know the gears are strait cut gears and they will make noise and that is normal. but how low does the rear end have to be before it hurts a gear. which gear would be most affected? thanks as it has been a while since i have seen inside of one of those trannys as there are quite reliable. in fact i never had a total failure. my dads 39 would not hold fifth but the guy he bought it from drove it like it was a car. nasty shift habbit. To me i rather take off in 5th and save the gear before i will grind the heck out of the gear. if your hauling a big load then you might need to a little but you can do it with out recking the gears. if your empty 5th is no problume taking off in unless your on a hill.

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Bob Kerr

06-07-2007 07:32:46

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Re: oil out the axle seals? in reply to jonnnny2006, 06-06-2007 20:55:00

I just went trough all that on my 51 H. Mine had maybe a gallon of oil in it and at least 3 gallons of water! The left axle seal leaked like crazy after I changed the oil but quit after a day or so. Usually a leaky seal means a sloppy bearing. My outer wheel bearing was toast. the inner is ok but turns rough so I am changing it too, infact I am doing it today. I got my bearings from Car Quest for $106 each, IH wanted over 200 each. also My H has a really noisy trans and I had some bearing retainer pieces come out with the oil water mix so there is bad bearings in there somewhere. I decided I am just going to go through the whole thing and change all the bearings since it had so much water and condensation in it. The gears I have seen so far have not on bit of rust,and look like new, (water damage) but the bearing balls do have dark spots and will fail down the road. and I think that is what I will do a lot of with it, Tractor drives! Also, I think I would just fix the engine that has the knocking, it sounded like a neat tractor with the different tranny and all, be a shame to gut it out.

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MN Scott

06-07-2007 06:39:43

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Re: oil out the axle seals? in reply to jonnnny2006, 06-06-2007 20:55:00

There is an oil level check plug on the left side of the tractor transmission housing in front of the clutch pedal. It should be a square headed plug. Park it on the level and pull the plug. If oil runs out let it run until it quits then you should be good to go. If it does'nt run out add oil till it does.

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georgeky

06-06-2007 22:17:24

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Re: oil out the axle seals? in reply to jonnnny2006, 06-06-2007 20:55:00

It will be fine if that is all that leaked out, just check it from time to time as on a hill or when plowing it will leak more. The seals are not to hard to put in. The gears in lots of them are a little loud. The axle bearings will usually go before any gears will be damaged.

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jonnnny2006

06-06-2007 23:39:10

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Re: oil out the axle seals? in reply to georgeky, 06-06-2007 22:17:24

After i greesed the zerks it seem to stop the leak. or the oil is just below that level. she will never sit on a hill for any kind of time. plus i dont use her to plow. she is gonna be my mowing tractor as the 44 H i bought with an artsway mower 6 foot A372 just for the mower and tires and parts. finally a rod, piston or bearing failed as it is now knocking. It has really good sheet metel and so does my 43 so i might just take the good from the 44 and put it on my 43. As long as i have the deck off im gonna have the blades sharpened and also gonna grease her up good. i will mabey fix the C 152 back to specs using the fire crater pistons or might bump it up to a 169 specs. some one told me the 350 engines guts can also fit in the 152 but im wondering about heat. will the radiator be ok or will i have to go with a 3 row style rad on it. I don't know what im gonna do. but i know my 43 has should have alot of life in it as it holds very very very very good oil pressure even after its hot and at a slow idle. It never goes over the "U" in "run" even when worked. my 44 oil gauge never went past 60 percent and was around 50 percent wide open hot and idleing mabey 25 %. So i knew when i bought her she was gonna go as it would blow bad blue smoke when 1st started and also when you took off under a load. It had really really good power right to the end though. good compression to (125 across). I dont even wanna guess untill i git it apart whats wrong with it). My 43 h is a dist burner and im gonna switch the head and make her a X1 and boost the hp a little. But as far as burning any oil mabey a tiny bit when first started after a long night sitting. after that it dosent smoke at all. Plus i never had to add oil between changes. The rain cap dosent dance at all at idle or under load. but it probally could use the main metering valve turned up a bit, but it has good power and is running around 1900 rpms but i never hold it wide open for extended periods of time its just nice to have the extra power when you are in need of alittle extra. but since i dont work her hard i'll probally leave it and take the extra fuel ecno. She gets to burn shell's 90 octaine gasoline with no alcohol so that helps with timing a little.

I was really amazed i got the 44 i bought to run so good as it did as it had a bad bad miss in it. i corrected the valve lash and gave her new electric componits and it ran better. but it never quite ran right under a no load situation and would run better under load. it would burn black and blue no matter how lean i turn down the main mettering valve. I think what has happened is that it has a cracked piston and it finally broke to where it failed completly. I shut it down as soon as 5 seconds after the noise. I think im gonna make a puller out of it just for fun. Like the others said if i get a diffrent engine i wont know what i got so i might as well just rebuild the one i have to the specs i want. that way no one would be able to tell just by looking at it. (sorry for long post)

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GordoSD

06-07-2007 09:30:07

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Re: oil out the axle seals? in reply to jonnnny2006, 06-06-2007 23:39:10

Sounds like your carb needs a better rebuild. You have to get rid of that black exhaust, way too rich. You need to lean down to bring up engine temps, keep plugs and combustion chambers clean, develope HP. You can't do any of those things running rich. Get you F/A mixture right and most of your other problems will likely disappear.

Gordo

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