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Confusion about pushing snow with a blade

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Grampsold544

06-24-2002 05:26:32




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I am thinking about getting a rear blade for my I-544. When pushing snow, do you reverse the blade and drive the tractor in reverse all the time? If you have the blade forward and drive the tractor forward, aren't you driving over the snow making in impossible to push?




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BIG JOHN

06-24-2002 18:44:02




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
Pushing snow is much easier than pulling snow. Just as someone said thought pushing snow with a rear blade will give you a stiff neck. If you pull it be sure to angle your blade so that the snow will escape and not just build up to the point of bringing you to a stop. Pushing snow with a front mounted blade or loader bucked is best. Have fun with your tractor



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Ed

06-24-2002 18:34:57




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
I built a blade that mounts between the front and rear wheels of my Super A. It pulls from the cultivator mount and I raise and lower it with the hydraulics. I use it mostly for earth moving,(landscaping) and grading. Works great.



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joe

06-24-2002 11:07:17




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
Going forward will work fine. I use a 300U in the winter, do not start going in reverse until the snow gets a few feet deep. On gravel, you will want to leave half an inch of snow or so in any case, unless you want to take a lot of gravel with you. And traction is a lot better (in the winter) on gravel with a bit of snow on it as compared to pavement with a bit of snow on it, in my opinion... the sharper edges of the limestone help your tires grip some. But anyways, like some others said, you'll want tire chains, wieghts, and a nice big blade.

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Drizler

06-24-2002 10:18:19




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
Make sure the blade is wide enough that it is as wide as the rear wheels when its angled. My 5' wide ferguson to 20 uses a 7' blade nicely. You should load your tires and chains are a must. I do most of my plowing forward as reverse is too fast in the fergy and traction is poor backwards. Yours being heavier is going to be lots better. Plowing a lot backwards will give you a stiff neck after a while. Mine is a Dearborne heavy dirt blade.

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Grampsold544

06-24-2002 09:02:49




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
Some for another post mensioned that they converted a manual blade into a hydrolic one.

I am only going to be pushing snow on gravel and I do not want to chew up all my gravel.



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Drizler

06-25-2002 18:15:49




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 Re: Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 09:02:49  
I never used runners on my rig but you sure need the light touch until the ground is frozen. If you have live hydraulics its lots easier to make the blade rest just on the surface or higher. If not and you see you are making a divot in the drive go curl up by the fire and let it go if you can. I usually pack it down with the car or drag the blade backwards or angled way forward so it doesn't dig in. Just don't charge on digging divots or you will be busy in the spring. Now how would I know that ???? 900' of gravel drive in Northern NY.

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To Grampsold544

06-24-2002 18:30:42




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 Re: Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 09:02:49  
Grampsold544: Why didn't you mention that you plan on removing snow off of GRAVEL.?? Loose gravel is a whole different ball game. Very hard to do. Plan on leaving a few inches behind and pack it down. Get runners for under the blade to keep it from digging into all the loose gravel.
Gene



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bigcer

06-24-2002 08:31:47




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
Gramps I'm sorry about the followup I guess I didn't clairify my statement. I lived in Alaska for 30 years and had a snow removal business on the side. I mounted a blade off a frame mounted to front of tractor. and had a cylinder to lift the blade I used a blade that came off a meyers snow blade made for a pickup.I worked real good had chaines for tractor. maybe this will clear up my statement. lol Bill

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Dave_Id

06-24-2002 08:31:13




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
If the snow is light, you can certainly drive in the forward position, and reverse it when it gets deeper...One thing to remember is to kick the snow away from the driveway as far as possilble. Once those berms thaw, then refreeze, you aren't moving the snow and will have to wait for spring thaw. I almost broke down and bought a blower last winter, we had so much snow, there was now room to push anymore, so if you are in an area where you get heavy drifting, and lots of snow..A blower is the way to go..and of course snow will blow all over you without a cab, but isn't that whats fun about living in the snowbelt?

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JohnIH

06-24-2002 06:59:29




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
I usually start out pushing the snow in reverse, especially if it is deep or has a lot of drifts. I keep the blade at an angle so the snow moves to one side. Once the major snow is gone you can trim the edges by turning the blade around and going forward with the blade at an angle.

Blowers are great, but if you don't have cab the guy on the seat will end up looking like a snowman!

JohnIH



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Grampsold544

06-24-2002 06:30:34




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
I was concerned that the tires would compact the snow to a point it would no longer be about to cleared. If this is not a problem, I will drive forward with blade facing forward. I will have to wait till the snow to see what works best.



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Gene

06-24-2002 06:48:42




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 Re: Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 06:30:34  
Gramps: I do drive forward and yes the snow is compacted under the rear tires but it's most of the times not a problem if you can put some down pressure on the blade and the blade angle is set well and its sharp enough. It will clean up those rear tire tracks on pavement. Only if your real fussy will you dislike the small amount of tracks remaining. Some like to see all black pavement because of traction on steep grades but my drive is fairly flat. Hope is help youe last question. G

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Mike

06-24-2002 06:20:45




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
I know people who drive in reverse when the snow is deeper and they go forward in lighter snow.

I haven't see too many tractors with a 3 point hitch on the front of the tractor so I don't know what bigcer is talking about. Unless he has a special attachment.

I plan to use a snow bucket on my loader.



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Ludwig

06-24-2002 06:55:43




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 Re: Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Mike, 06-24-2002 06:20:45  
Before the 3pt hitch push blades were really common for alot of the tasks you'd use a rear blade for now.
I can still remember my great uncle smoothing the farm roads with the push blade on his M. A back blade would probably do a better job, but it was all he had and in the end worked out quite well.



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Gene

06-24-2002 06:15:02




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
Gramps: It depends somewhat on how serious the snowfall is and what your trying to do. I use a rear blade on my C and it works just fine for my driveway and clearing a side fence. I can drive thru quite a bit of snow going foward and still have the rear blade clean it all up including the just made tire tracks. I can also push backwards quite a bit too. I've reduced the side2side swing on my 3 point so the blade doesn't swing out to either side too much. If your doing a lot more than just your driveway, maybe you will have to change the blade direction for part of it? Hope this helps some. G

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06-24-2002 06:25:48




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 Re: Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Gene, 06-24-2002 06:15:02  
Gramps: I should have mentioned I do have the blade on for foward. Also note that the snow does pile up very deep ahead of the blade.. but remember that snow is much lighter than DIRT so let it pile up. Also a slight angle allows the snow to excape to the side when it piles up ahead of the blade. No it's not perfect but is does get the job done. Money no issue, get a blower? Good luck. G.



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bigcer

06-24-2002 06:10:34




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 Re: Confusion about pushing snow with a blade in reply to Grampsold544, 06-24-2002 05:26:32  
Snow blade goes on front of tractor blade on rear is for dragging dirt road. Bill



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