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Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal?

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Grampsold544

07-01-2002 09:05:11

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I finially got my I-544 gas tractor running. I have noticed ever time I use it there is rust and crude it the bottom of my sedament bowl. I looked in the tank and there is some rust forming in there. I have a filter in the line to help catch what the sedament bowl lets thru.

My guestion is, isn't everone who has a old tractor with an untreated tank have some rust in there? How much rust is exceptable? Also how do you get it out without removing the tank? I am hoping that due to it not running for a few year this would be something that would work itself out but do not know.

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Seamo

07-01-2002 22:37:50

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Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Grampsold544, 07-01-2002 09:05:11

We use little magnets from hardware store put on outside of tank close to the center.You can then let tank run dry,take off magnets and vaccum out tank. EARL in Illinois

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BrianV

07-01-2002 13:46:07

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Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Grampsold544, 07-01-2002 09:05:11

My neighbor Ed told me to put some oil in my gas.
It worked the rust stopped He owned a few Farmalls. Funny when I asked hem his age he said "old as dirt". Somewhere around 70 I think still likes ridding my Farmall C.

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Grampsold544

07-01-2002 09:43:53

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Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Grampsold544, 07-01-2002 09:05:11

I hate to mess around with trying to clean the inside of the tank, fearing all I will do is knock more crude loose.

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Hugh MacKay

07-01-2002 10:24:37

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Re: Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Grampsold544, 07-01-2002 09:43:53

You may as well knock it loose. Using the tractor with movement of gas in tank will loosen it anyway. I went through this with a Super A. Had to remove bowl from tank twice. Fitting from tank to bowl was full of flakes of rust. These were packed in so tight gas wouldn't flow enough to keep tractor running. I would put a large inline between bowl and carburator, just in case screen in bowl doesn't catch all of it. It will plug your carb also. With mine the problem cleared up in about two weeks of quite steady use. That was ten years ago, haven't really had problems since. I try to keep my tractors near full of fuel when not in use. That has its problems too. Fuel tends to get stale and a shelac forms in screen or inline filter. I always keep spares of those around. One of my tractors sits all winter, by spring screen will look like someone shelaced it.

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DON LC

07-02-2002 10:04:05

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Re: Re: Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-01-2002 10:24:37

My tractors are retired ,just sit around and look pretty most of the time.....I keep the tanks full about once a month with a fuel stableizer, called STABLE....I suck out about five gallon an run it in my lawn tractor...then add fresh to my FARMALL M or my ALLIS G ....It's a lot of trouble, but it works for me....

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Grampsold544

07-01-2002 13:51:30

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Re: Re: Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-01-2002 10:24:37

Well..... ..I do not have a screen in my fuel sedament collector. I do have a large filter thou. Looks like I need to buy a screen.

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Hugh MacKay

07-01-2002 18:19:35

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Grampsold544, 07-01-2002 13:51:30

I found the screen along with filter worked well together. The screen will not catch all the fine particles, but what it will do is catch the bulk of it, thus your inline filter will last longer. When I first started on my tractor I was dumping collector 3-4 times per day. Now I am down to twice per year, and it is usually just water from condensation. My tractor had sat for some time with little fuel in it. I supose condensation starts the rust on inside of tank.

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Grampsold544

07-01-2002 13:51:20

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Re: Re: Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-01-2002 10:24:37

Well..... ..I do not have a screen in my fuel sedament collector. I do have a large filter thou. Looks like I need to buy a screen.

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Tom W

07-01-2002 09:35:48

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Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Grampsold544, 07-01-2002 09:05:11

Try running a magnet around inside the tank. The magnet will pick up the loose rust.

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Mike

07-01-2002 09:26:14

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Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Grampsold544, 07-01-2002 09:05:11

I just got a 460 and for the last 6 months I know it didn't have much more than a few gallons of fuel in the tank. When I filled it up I think the gas works some of the surface rust free. I drove it for 2 hours and the tractor kept sputtering like it was running out of fuel. It would die. Five minutes later I would start it up and drive another 100 yards and it would sputter and die.

I looked at the glass filter and it had a small amount of rust in it. I cleaned it out and it ran perfect (til I sprang a leak in the top of my radiator)

I don't know how much is too much, if you have rust in it, then clean it out. It only takes a couple of minutes. It might spare you from doing it out in the field.

What I am wondering is how much is in my in-line filter screen that goes to the carb. I have taken it off yet.

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Drizler

07-01-2002 22:39:04

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Re: Re: Rust in sedament bowl, how much is normal? in reply to Mike, 07-01-2002 09:26:14

My 230 was always doing just that, running fine then stalling out, dump the bowl and do it all over again. I finally got pissed and got another whole bowl as no amount of cleaning solved it for more than a half hours run time. MAGIC the problem NEVER came back not even once. It was $20 well spent and I wish I had done it long before.

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