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Larry W.

10-04-2002 06:17:10

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I have been to several antique tractor showes and pulls this summer and have noticed 706's & 806's in with the H & M's on display. Today ,what years are considered antique? The newest tractor I use is a 1970 856. To me, that up to date.

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Bill Smith

10-06-2002 20:34:06

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

I consider 1939 and older antique and 1940 upward for about 20 or 25 years classic. I am like you and think that anything 1970 and newer is modern times on equipment. Most tractor shows are pretty leanient on what is allowed to be displayed. Every tractor you see at a show may not exactly be a classic or antique but simply a tractor that has been restored and the owner wants to show it. Most tractor people are friendly and don't tell the guy to take his modern tractor back home. Instead they say park in the lineup and show it and that just makes that much more for the John Q public to see at the show. Just my two cents worth.

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j meyer

10-04-2002 21:10:48

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

Hello there. Well, I come from the Oliver board, and I'd say for my tractors the Super series would be antique. They were replaced in 1959, so that would be the early 460/560 for International. I'd think that now days that the 06 series would be considered the "oldest modern" International, like the 4-digit series for Oliver. My thoughts anyways....

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Hugh MacKay

10-05-2002 03:37:24

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Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to j meyer, 10-04-2002 21:10:48

I agree with you j meyer, when the American built row crop changed from steping on drawbar to get on the tractor to mounting ahead of rear wheel, the industry created the modern day tractor. Henry Ford and Harry Ferguson did have a few items right. Their idea just had to be added to tractors with some size. All the mainline manufacturers of farm tractors brought in some real good ideas. The interesting part in all of this, is the one company that really never had a first good idea, adopted everyone else's good ideas and went on to become the most financially sucessful farm equipment manufacturer.

In the 1950s I always said that if you could blend all makes of tractors into one using each manufacturers best idea, one would have had the ultimate tractor. From then until mid 1980s that did happen and today we farm with the best ideas of all 1950s manufacturers.

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Rachelle

01-23-2005 18:49:02

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Re: Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-05-2002 03:37:24

Do you know how to find out if an item has any value?

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Glenn(WV)

10-04-2002 20:49:21

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

I've been told that if the tractor is 50 years old, it's considered an antique.

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old crank

10-04-2002 20:12:50

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

any tractor without a electric starter

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I agree

10-05-2002 07:16:18

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Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to old crank, 10-04-2002 20:12:50

Electric starters are for city folks.

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Hugh MacKay

10-05-2002 07:48:12

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Re: Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to I agree, 10-05-2002 07:16:18

Are you suggesting you are able enough to hand crank a six cylinder directstart diesel. If so I wouldn't want to get you upset, or even a little anoyed.

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Too modern, Hugh

10-06-2002 10:40:34

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Re: Re: Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-05-2002 07:48:12

a 6 cyl directstart dsl would be toooo modern. but a slightly larger handcrank might doo

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Hugh MacKay

10-06-2002 12:07:00

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to Too modern, Hugh, 10-06-2002 10:40:34

You know your right, an opinion is a valuable item. One man's treasure is another man's junk. That is what keeps the flee market, garage & yard sale and recycle business going. Probably the only true picture of economic growth going in todays world.

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Too modern, Hugh

10-06-2002 10:35:32

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Re: Re: Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-05-2002 07:48:12

a 6 cyl directstart dsl would be toooo modern. but a slightly larger handcrank might doo

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Thank you Hand Yank!

10-04-2002 21:52:14

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Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to old crank, 10-04-2002 20:12:50

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walter

10-04-2002 17:30:28

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

I think all the views presneted so far have valued points. Antiques are collectibles. BUT not all collectibles are Antiques. Antiques imples age. We all agree that any auto built before 1939 is an antique. OLD. Steel wheeled tractors are definetly antiques. My understanding is that anything over 50 years of age is considered and antique. I am 61! Collectibles on the other hand are judged by rarity of production or rarity of uniquness. NOT age. A Rembrandant painting is considered a rare, unique, antique collectiable. and hence it's $$$$$$$ is high.
Where as my 1941 Farmall tractor with cultivators, plow, rake and bush hog are a collectibe with some low value but not RARE or unique. YET the age 61 years would make it an antique.

What are you looking for? RARITY, AGE, uniquenss or fun?

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Jeff

10-04-2002 13:01:54

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

It is not an antique unless it has steel wheels!

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David Ransom

10-04-2002 22:18:47

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Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to Jeff, 10-04-2002 13:01:54

Here's a photo from the gallery.

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Bama Binder

10-04-2002 09:08:54

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

I'll throw in my opinion. With tractors, the acid test in my opinion is capability and features. Live hydraulics, live PTO, power steering, 3 point hitch, etc. These things can be found on most tractors from the mid 1950s to 1960. That would put you close to the 45-50 year mark.

An old tractor like these do just about as much work as the current models at a FRACTION of the cost.

Collectors tractors are a different question entirely. There, production numbers, unique/desireable brand, mystique and age take over. Antique tractors from the 1940s are a dime a dozen so to speak, but it does not really mean is has collector value.

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Hugh MacKay

10-04-2002 16:20:33

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Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to Bama Binder, 10-04-2002 09:08:54

I am allmost with you, on this although I use a bit different criteria. Todays tractors are all the tractors that had the operator moved ahead 1.5 feet to allow mounted equipment 3 point or 2 point to be raised to a decent height without interfering with operator or platform.

Example; Farmall M, SM, 400, 450 and 560 great old tractors. They didn't feel that way when the row marker lever hooked in your hip pocket as you lowered the mounted corn planter. 04, 06, 56 and onward are modern day tractors and one in good condition could match any of the new ones on work. These newer tractors are also cab friendly.

Other than the Fords and Fergies, if you can look straight down and see drawbar directly under seat you have an antique. Just my opinion.

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Ray M41

10-04-2002 08:08:49

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

Anything without a bank note.

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CBL

10-04-2002 07:37:00

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

Kind of makes you wonder if ALL IH and Farmall tractors are collectable now that they are no longer produced. I understand that IH is no longer used in the name only Case New Holland. With that in mind it seems to me all IHC's fall into the collectable group. Other opinions may very. CBL

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Tim Malin

10-04-2002 06:47:43

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

I know most antique pulls have a 50 year rule for pullers. However, I consider the 60 series to be the last of the antiques for right now. So, what is that, 40 years? I think the 06's are prestige, 56 classic, and 66 are the oldest of the "new." My opinions only. Happy hunting.

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Steven@nd

10-04-2002 06:44:39

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

Antique is different for everyone. Some places won't take anything over 1939, some go to 1954, 1959 is the cutoff date for antique tractor pulling. And still some say 20 or 25 years old is antique.

I feel that there is a place for any tractor at a show. If I wanted to restore our 1979 IH 1086 I'm sure someone would appreciate the work that went into it. My antiques are the ones that don't go over 4 miles an hour, the rest get used on the farm all the time.

Steven

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10-04-2002 06:31:46

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Re: What considered antique in reply to Larry W., 10-04-2002 06:17:10

I am with you Larry. My newest is a 69 856 and I think it is like brand new.

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RB/CT

10-04-2002 08:29:38

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Re: Re: What considered antique in reply to KX, 10-04-2002 06:31:46

Some local fairs around here (CT), consider 30 years or older to be an antique tractor. With cars its 25 years. I guess its open to interpretation.

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