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Richard

10-28-2002 12:35:30




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Looking to buy tractor sufficient to pull a 15 foot rotary cutter.

Neighbor (dont know personally) has IH 1066 turbo with some kind of cab, missing doors, otherwise, appears "beat up". The engine cranked over and "sounded" fine/smooth to my non professional ears.

He wants $6,700 for it, didn't ask if take less. I know NOTHING about tractors as I'm a city boy transplant.

Is this a reasonable price? If I look further into purchase, anything I need to look for?

he evididently used to use it for his fields etc.. says it's a real workhorse of a machine. I'm sure it could be, but I also know one hidden (presumed known) defect in it can cost me a bundle too.

Any words of wisdom as to what to look for? I presume it would have no troubles pulling 15 foot cutter?


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Richard

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Cecil T Catchings, II

12-24-2004 19:01:06




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 Re: IH 1066 in reply to Richard, 10-28-2002 12:35:30  
Hey Bud,
Is it a Hydro (Hydrostatic transmission as opposed to Geardrive transmission)? Hydos are excellent for your application, yet not for heavy tillage. And if the hydro is not properly maintained and malfunctions, it costs a lot to repair and it's hard to find good repairmen. Yet and still, the Hydro concept was a good idea but the jury is still out on the practicality. You must know that "not many" Hydro tractors are presently being built. That may tell you something.

If it runs and drives, try to get it for 4K and you can't go too far wrong.

ps, I'm presently rebuilding a 1066 Hydro Transmission. I have a case and both servos. I am looking for parts. Anybody out there got any parts?

a glutton for punishment
Cecil

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joe

10-28-2002 19:49:50




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 Re: IH 1066 in reply to Richard, 10-28-2002 12:35:30  
That 1066 would be tons of overkill for a 15 foot mower. We use a Ford 6600 (somewhere in the 60 hp range I believe) to run a 20 foot batwing. It does just fine, unless you really get yourself bogged down in super super thick thistle, when you have to clutch.
That 1066 would run a fifteen foot mower through anything in any gear.
A general rule of thumb as far as mowing goes, is use the smallest tractor you can - mainly because it will save on mower wear to have fewer hp transmitted through the driveshafts/gearboxes/etc. Mowers also take a lot of work to keep up, in the way of fixing U-joints, welding broken decks, etc.
Good luck getting everything figured out!

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Hugh MacKay

10-28-2002 17:52:43




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 Re: IH 1066 in reply to Richard, 10-28-2002 12:35:30  
Richard: Stay away from those big turbos, light work is where they really rob you on fuel. Go for a 656, 756, 856 or even 766. The 56 series tractors were by far the very best IH ever built. They were trouble free, fuel efficient and even more comfortable on long hours. 766 is a good one, 360 engine has a good reputation.

Within 1 year of buying my 1066 it got used for 3 jobs only ; heavy tillage, forage harvester 200 hp rating and 12 ton manure spreader. I didn' even use it on 5x16 semi-mounted plow.

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scottAR

10-28-2002 17:24:01




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 Re: IH 1066 in reply to Richard, 10-28-2002 12:35:30  
I agree with Mitch that $6700 would buy a nice 1066 in my area and you can find worn tractors for a couple of grand less in the South. But also in the South the condition of four Rice & Cane tires drastically affects the value of tractors of any brand. If I was going to be doing a lot of PTO work I would prefer an IH simply because the PTO is so much easier to get to for repair than JDs. As far as fuel consumption is concerned, I once planted 185 acres of soybeans on 34 gallons of fuel. But also that same tractor used to pull a 17 shank chisel plow deep in fourth gear and be out of fuel at lunch. I think it has a 43 gallon tank. If I was going to pull a 15 foot cutter, I would hook the cutter up to the 1000 RPM shaft and run the engine a little over half speed. It won't use any more fuel than a small tractor running wide open.

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Hugh MacKay

10-28-2002 16:04:34




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 Re: IH 1066 in reply to Richard, 10-28-2002 12:35:30  
1066 or a good working one would probably handle 3 of those 15' cutters at same time, and with the fuel it will burn you will probably wish you were cutting 45 feet at a pass. I bought a 1066 new in 1975 and was not impressed. At the time I had 3 other diesel tractors all of them (2 Farmalls and a Deere) more fuel efficient per hp than 1066. For example 1066 is about 1 gal of fuel per hour per 15 hp; 656 is about 1/2 gal of fuel per hour per 15 hp. The other two were right in there with 656

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Mitchissippi

10-28-2002 13:38:55




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 Re: IH 1066 in reply to Richard, 10-28-2002 12:35:30  
It should handle the 15' cutter with ease. I have a 1066 and I like it. Look at again, see if it pulls in all the gears. See if the hydrualic remotes and the 3 pnt. hitch works. Check the brakes. Pull the hydraulic oil dipstick out and look for metal in the oil. . . . . There's a lot you can look at to get a better feel for the tractor. This board is a good source for advice. Some of these guys deal with them more than I do, and what to look for will be a lot fresher on their minds than it is on mine. $6700 should get a good 1066 in my neck of the woods. I have seen good 1066's sell less than that in the delta.

A good idea would be to find someone you trust, who knows tractors, to go with you to look at it. I could be a lot more throrough (I don't think I spelled that right?!) if I were looking at it myself.

Ask a lot questions on here - that is what this is for.

Good luck with it,
Mitch

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moonlite

10-29-2002 03:08:43




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 Re: Re: IH 1066 in reply to Mitchissippi, 10-28-2002 13:38:55  
If you mow enough acreage to justify a 15 ft. machine you need a really good tractor. I thinkI would look for one in top mechanical (also apperance) shape.



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Richard

10-28-2002 16:51:17




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 Re: Re: IH 1066 in reply to Mitchissippi, 10-28-2002 13:38:55  
What is it for?

Simply put, a lawn mower !

The family "farm" (1/2 woods, 1/2 fields) is about 250 acres. Father in law says he thinks it's 100 acres fields. Well, This summer was my first indoctrination to cutting roughly 100 acres with an IH 444 (ZERO brakes) and a 5' cutter. Parts of farm had gone 2 to 3 years between cuts. Felt like I was cutting Sherwood Forest.

I'm trying desperately to get them to consider a 15 foot cutter to cut down seat time. looking also at new machines, but for a lawn mower, I have hard time justifying 40+/- K give or take.

If I bought a NEW machine (looking primarily at M class Kubota) I'd want a cab, loader, 4wd, a/c, heat.. :)

as the register goes ka-ching... that delusion grows further away. Farm owned by father in law and uncle in law (80/83). When it passes to next generation, there will be 12 new owners, each owning roughly 20 acres each (NOT deeded off..common ownership)

It's THIS QUAGMIRE that's pending that keeps ME from spending the $$ to take care of every one elses portion of land..and of course, they are not offering ~~4,000 each to buy commonly owned tractor... Sigh..as it will be ME keeping "their" farm cut (over the longer term) (all are out of town) I want something larger to keep my cutting time to minimum.

Richard

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clint

10-29-2002 20:00:13




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 Re: Re: Re: IH 1066 in reply to Richard, 10-28-2002 16:51:17  
12 owners together owning 1 parcel of land together, sorry but that spells BIG trouble in the future. I wouldn't but anything I couldn't resale and get my money or most of it back. You will take a beating if you try to sale a new brush hog, or tractor a few years from now. The kubota is a good tractor from what I have seen, but may not have the resale value of other makes incase you do decide to buy new. Good luck with what ever you decide to buy,and I hope it works out in the future when you become owners with the other 11.

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Mitchissippi

10-28-2002 21:10:28




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 Re: Re: Re: IH 1066 in reply to Richard, 10-28-2002 16:51:17  
Richard, I have to agree with everything said about the 1066 being overkill for a 15' cutter and it not being very efficient. I will also say that you and I are in similar situations. I am not trying to make a living with my tractor. I need a tractor to help maintain family land - in my limited spare time. I could get by with a smaller tractor. But when I need to tackle a big job, I have more than enough HP to do it - quickly and without tearing up smaller equipment. I do not count the gallons of fuel I burn. When I need fuel, I buy fuel. I sometimes buy 20 or 25 gallons at a time, just to keep some on hand. Now, I am not saying that money is no object! I have to save my pennies for repairs sometimes. And do the mechanic work myself (soo far so good). I'm just saying that the advantages of having the "bigger" tractor, seems to balance out the "more fuel" issue in my case. I can come out ahead buying fuel verses hiring someone to maintain my place. If I hated driving and working on tractors and equipment, the cost of hiring out the work might not seem so high. For me, I enjoy the work. And I know a lot of people who spend way more money on boats and sports cars, than I ever ever will on fuel for my big tractor. Didn't mean to rant here, just thought I would throw in a few thoughts. Everyone has to look at his or her own situation.

Mitch

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Richard

10-29-2002 03:43:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: IH 1066 in reply to Mitchissippi, 10-28-2002 21:10:28  
I suppose from ignorance, I'm not terribly concerned about fuel usage. I don't know that the IH 444 is Mr. Thrifty, and I have a industrial JCB TLB w/ 15 1/2 foot backhoe.. I just get fuel as I need it...sometimes 40 gallons at whack (in 5 gal cans).

Usually go weekly so the amount isn't so great



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pcy

10-29-2002 16:30:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH 1066 in reply to Richard, 10-29-2002 03:43:27  
i do a good bit of custom bushogging in southern ohio, last fall i traded my old 2615 bushog 15 ft for a new 2615 legend , it has never been on a tractor smaller than a 1066 , right now it is on my 5488, i tightened up the slip clutches and go mow 3 weeks ago i bushogged 113 acres in 8 1/2 hrs , made 1130$ , i wouldent think of putting a batwing back on a little tractor, in hilly ground a 2615 bushog brand bushog will send a little tractor to the bottom , ive took a few wild rides and turned a duetz tractor over bushogging

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