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orangeted

11-24-2002 19:38:35




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I do not own any IH tractors myself but I have been looking at making the "ultimate" small mowing / snow plowing tractor.

I was wondering if it is possible to convert a cub into a lowboy? --Is it possible to rotate the final drive 90 degrees thereby lowering the rear end?? I know this can be done with Allis Chalmers B's.

On the same note is it possible to do this to an A, B or C? I think you could then fab your own front end to work with the old spindles and voila! A mowing tractor with more horsepower than the lowboy.

Also what is the hp of the A B C. And how do their sizes and weights compare to the cub?

thanks

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arkietech

09-25-2005 07:31:49




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 Re: convert cub to lowboy? in reply to orangeted, 11-24-2002 19:38:35  
splended idea,i have converted narrow front ent farmall m's to a wide and rebuilt several a's.i agree the biggest challenge would be to aling the axle housings.droping the front end is simple enough.would personally do an A farmall,alittle more horsepower than a cub.any questions feel free to contact me.
just my 2 cents



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orangeted

11-25-2002 13:43:24




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 Re: convert cub to lowboy? in reply to orangeted, 11-24-2002 19:38:35  
so it is not possible to rotate the final drive on a stock A or super A? I'm not trying to make an exact copy of a lowboy or anything. Just looking for an interesting project.

thanks, and sorry for my ignorance
Ted



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George Willer

11-25-2002 16:28:26




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 Re: Re: convert cub to lowboy? in reply to orangeted, 11-25-2002 13:43:24  
One difference in the low-boy final drives...the bolt circle is rotated 30 degrees. Otherwise, they could only be rotated 60 or 120 degrees. The dowell pins would have to be re-located very accurately, but the bolt holes would be forgiving. Then there is the problem of brake linkage, and fender/platform fit, etc., etc..

If you want a low-boy, the best thing would be to buy one rather than convert, unless you would really enjoy the challenge.

Look who's talking!

George Willer

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Heath

11-26-2002 18:51:12




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 Re: Re: Re: convert cub to lowboy? in reply to George Willer, 11-25-2002 16:28:26  
Cool Cub George!



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Bama Binder

11-25-2002 14:46:21




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 Re: Re: convert cub to lowboy? in reply to orangeted, 11-25-2002 13:43:24  
I won't say no because nothing is impossible. I don't have a Super A right now to try it on. I do know that there was never a factory Super A loboy and that if the Super As are like the Cubs, rotating the finals won't work due to bolt patterns and brake assemblies. Not to mention the need to modify all the implements.



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Bama Binder

11-25-2002 05:20:42




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 Re: convert cub to lowboy? in reply to orangeted, 11-24-2002 19:38:35  
To answer a few questions as I understand it from poking around in the IH parts book. First, the final drives are not exactly alike on the Loboys, but I am sure you could get a Cub and swap out all the parts you needed to make a loboy. But if you don't own either, why not just buy a Loboy?

The A, B and Cs are all larger than the Cub and all were designed as row crop tractors, especially the Bs and Cs. Based on the tricycle design, I would tend to eleminate the B up front. The C/Super C is about twice the size and HP as a Cub but with a much higher center of gravity, so if "small" is important, I think the C is out.

The As and especially the Super As are the closest you will come to your goal. Unless you live in an area with steep terrain, the Super A can plow snow with the 60" blade that can be front or mid mounted and while you don't find them everywhere, there are enough out there where you can find them in the $300 range. Ditto for a 59" belly mower. Woods and IH made them and they are good units and with the 18-20 horses available, they can push through most stuff without too much trouble.

As I said, unless your terrain is really hilly, the stock Super A is about as good as it gets. As far as I understand, they never made a loboy version of the Super A, but you may be able to lower one. I think the downside to that plan is now the stock implements won't work.

Looking at more modern machines, the 404, B250, B414, 424..series has a lot to offer and with the 3 point hitch they can do anything the others can do but better.

The Cub 184 Loboy was the final Cub and I have one. It has a resonable improvement in performance over the regular Cub but I have found it to lack the versatility of regular Cubs because of lack of implements.

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Bus Driver

11-25-2002 05:04:28




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 Re: convert cub to lowboy? in reply to orangeted, 11-24-2002 19:38:35  
The final drives for the LoBoy are different from the regular Cub. Conversion is doable, but not practical. For a mowing tractor, get a new Kubota. The Farmalls were designed primarily for other tasks- unless the mowing is hay.



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