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Farmall a start switch/rod help.....

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ken

06-18-2003 00:11:06




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im restoring an a and am not sure about the start switch, mine switch mounts near the front of starter. i was missing rod and switch, and got a corrrect rod for an a and bought a new switch for a super a thinking its the same, but when i bolt it up the it rod would have to be pushed to start not pulled is this normal? or do i need a starter with the switch toward the back like a super a style? are a and super a the same starter and switch? any help would be appricated thanks all...

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ken

06-19-2003 21:58:45




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 Re: farmall a start switch/rod help..... in reply to ken, 06-18-2003 00:11:06  
thanks for all the info guys....sheds some light on the subject..... .



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gene b

06-18-2003 04:06:33




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 Re: farmall a start switch/rod help..... in reply to ken, 06-18-2003 00:11:06  
You have the rite one the starters have different locations for the sw which is the same./ Your starter rod should be a short one and foot operated if you want original. There are lots that have been changed to longer rods and other configurations. Correct is the foot operated one. Do you have the little bkt that mounts to the gas tank for the foot operated rod?



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Rick

06-18-2003 03:13:56




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 Re: farmall a start switch/rod help..... in reply to ken, 06-18-2003 00:11:06  
My 1940 "A" has a push type mechanism for engaging the starter switch- located so that the operator can push the rod end with his foot. Appears to be original equipment.



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Only two feet?

06-18-2003 10:46:11




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 Re: Re: farmall a start switch/rod help..... in reply to Rick, 06-18-2003 03:13:56  
When I start a tractor I have one foot on the clutch and one on the brake/s. Don't know about you all but I only have two feet, not good for that 'foot' style starter. BTW, my '45 A has the "reverse" push to start rod on it also, suspect mix up at the starter repair shop, but it still works.



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K.B.

06-18-2003 21:44:42




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 Re: Re: Re: farmall a start switch/rod help..... in reply to Only two feet?, 06-18-2003 10:46:11  
Your brakes don't lock down, smart guy?



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Say What?

06-22-2003 10:19:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall a start switch/rod help... in reply to K.B., 06-18-2003 21:44:42  
No, 'smart guy', I don't trust 50+ year old brakes to work "perfectly".



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Hugh MacKay

06-18-2003 02:41:19




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 Re: farmall a start switch/rod help..... in reply to ken, 06-18-2003 00:11:06  
Ken: 99% of all A, SA, 100 and 130 have the type of starter switch that the rod is pulled for starting. The push type will work but I'll bet the rod you bought is not right length. The proper switch is the one in which you pull the rod. When buying a switch make sure you are also getting the little plastic shields that go inside the switch. I have run across 2 tractors in past year without those. Without those you can get a dead short in that switch.

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gene b

06-18-2003 04:00:26




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 Re: Re: farmall a start switch/rod help..... in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-18-2003 02:41:19  
Hugh you forgot that the A has the foot operated push starter. The SUPERS had the pull ones with the location on the brush end.



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Hugh MacKay

06-18-2003 10:44:21




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 Re: Re: Re: farmall a start switch/rod help..... in reply to gene b, 06-18-2003 04:00:26  
gene: I have never been around a lot of A's, however most of the ones I have seen have the pull rod. I was never around these when new, so maybe local users have changed them. Now that you have mentioned it I do remember seeing the push rod, and I guess thinking it was maybe an option. The only pre 1950 I ever had much to do with was a W4. That is why you never see me get too deep into mag discussions, I'm just a 60 year old kid.

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Dave C.

06-19-2003 05:07:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall a start switch/rod help... in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-18-2003 10:44:21  
Hi Hugh! I have the original short push-style on the `44 A ;you`ll see it when you get out this way.



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Merlin

06-18-2003 06:03:35




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 Re: Re: Re: farmall a start switch/rod help..... in reply to gene b, 06-18-2003 04:00:26  
Sorry for my ignorance, but I am very confused about the starter switch question and answers and my curiosity got the best of me. I have owned many, many A's and a few Super A's, but have never seen a push starter on one. Could it be a industrial? All of the starters I have seen were the same. I have seen the switches installed backwards, but the solution was to just turn them around and it would be a pull rod then. Thanks.

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gene b

06-18-2003 20:06:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall a start switch/rod help... in reply to Merlin, 06-18-2003 06:03:35  
The A had a push rod for the starter same as the B. The supersa had a pull rod and the sw was on the commutator end or the one closest to the operator. There are two different listings for these starters stating the location of the sw.



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JONATHAN MIRGON

06-18-2003 08:04:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall a start switch/rod help... in reply to Merlin, 06-18-2003 06:03:35  
My 1940 (a) has the push type rod, I thought that it should be pulled instead of pushed, so i turned the switch around, after turning the the switch around the contacts on the switch and the starter would not line up , thus not engaging the starter. I made an extended rod for mine that connects beside the throttle lever, It seems to be a bit more convienent that way.



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