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Kelly C

09-26-2003 21:50:13




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On my 400 the clutch pedal moves to the left as you push it in and can move out side the deck cover when you release it. It appears to be worn where the clutch goes through the brake shaft.
Lots of side to side slop in it.
Qestion is do they have a replaceable bushing?
Or do I need to replace the padal or the shaft maybe?




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CNKS

09-27-2003 13:49:56




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 Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Kelly C, 09-26-2003 21:50:13  
I'm currently having a machine shop fix the one on my Super H. Going to make a whole new shaft (says its easier than fixing the old one) and make brass bushings for the clutch pedal and one brake pedal. The other is keyed and ok. Also going to rebuild the steering shaft where it goes thru the upper bearing. Only problem is it's going to cost me in excess of $200. But, it will be like new.



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TP from Central PA

09-27-2003 13:45:20




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 Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Kelly C, 09-26-2003 21:50:13  
Our M-TA and 400 both have this problem..... ....I plan on taking the M-TA apart so the shaft will get built up and turned down and I will press a bushing into the clutch pedal. The previous owner of our 400 made a plate in the shape of an "L" and bolted it to the deck plate.....This forms a track for the clutch to follow back and forth. It should be fixed but I can't really tear it down since I will need it on the corn picker and for moving snow this winter.

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Kelly C

09-27-2003 21:30:45




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 Re: Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to TP from Central PA, 09-27-2003 13:45:20  
I may do the L bracket fix myself. Mine is very worn and I worry about my foot slipping wile in close with the bucket.
I will have to find some info on getting the shaft built up and putting a bushing in it this winter.
I can plow snow with the H till the 400s fixed.
Right now my H is sitting in a field with the mower attached. then it gets ferried to the next waiting field. So the 400 has got rake and baler duty.

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Jimmy King

09-27-2003 12:20:57




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 Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Kelly C, 09-26-2003 21:50:13  
My 756 brake pedals got so when locked togather the lock would slide out of the slot, very anoing when round baling. I had them reamed out used a peice of pvc pipe I do not remember what size but got the size that fit the shaft drilled two grease holes in the pipe that was several years ago. They are still working fine.



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Steve450

09-27-2003 11:32:41




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 Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Kelly C, 09-26-2003 21:50:13  
My old 450 had the same problem. Darn near couldn't use the clutch without getting your foot cought up in the TA lever. Comes from lack of grease over the years. It also made the left brake grab when the clutch was depressed. I used some washers to shim it up for a temp fix. A friend works in a machine shop and was going to make a bushing for it but I sold the tractor this year and never did fix it. My 656 has the same wear but not near as bad.

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Peabody

09-27-2003 06:03:43




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 Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Kelly C, 09-26-2003 21:50:13  
A buddy of mine used shimstock on his M with the same problem. Took most of the play out.



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Kelly C

09-27-2003 06:13:26




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 Re: Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Peabody, 09-27-2003 06:03:43  
Shimstock?
Whats that?



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Peabody

09-27-2003 06:22:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Kelly C, 09-27-2003 06:13:26  
You snowheads may call it by a different name. It's basically a thin sheet of brass, looks kinda like a shiny piece of paper. You can get it in different thicknesses. You cut it to the desired size and use it to build up, or "shim" worn areas, such as wrapping around your brake shaft where the clutch pedal fits. I don't know about up there, but if I walk into a parts store here in Alabama and ask for shimstock, the parts guy will immediately ask, "What thickness?" I'm glad you've got a new project to work on. I've got to find something else to do. I've gotten bored since I finished my Super C restoration. And it's perfect weather right now.

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Tractor Dan

09-27-2003 04:04:08




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 Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Kelly C, 09-26-2003 21:50:13  
i just did a quick temparary fix on mine a bolted a piece of quarter by half on the outside of the deck ran it out the lenght the peddel moves and keep it greased
i was told that a bushing for the fasthitch was the same and could be used but i have not tryed that yet good luck



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Larry806

09-26-2003 22:19:51




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 Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Kelly C, 09-26-2003 21:50:13  
When my son had his 400 I took the clutck pedal off, reamed it out & put a oil light bushing in it Took the shaft out & welded it up & turned it back to size Larry



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scotty

09-27-2003 06:43:01




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 Re: Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Larry806, 09-26-2003 22:19:51  
Larry, Your fix is the right way to go! That is the way I would do it.
scotty



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Dick Davis

09-27-2003 02:24:58




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 Re: Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Larry806, 09-26-2003 22:19:51  
From your description sounds as if you need to both work on shaft and pedal. My experience is most junk yard items have exactly the same wear patterns as yours. So build up and inserts are probably the answer or buy on the net, steelwheelranch enjoys a good rep. Whey do SMTA, 400 & 450 wear worse than older M's? Dick Davis



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rustyfarmall

09-27-2003 05:30:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Clutch pedal question in reply to Dick Davis, 09-27-2003 02:24:58  
I think that is because the SMTA, 400, and 450, being more powerful and more convenient to operate, have seen a whole lot more use than a straight M, and the straight M suffers from this problem more than an H.



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