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Is webbing strap OK for pulling small stumps, etc?

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TedM

09-29-2003 05:10:19

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I've got some small (10') tree stumps that I want to pull out.

I've used rope and had that snap on me in the past, so I'm going to get something that's not going to fly back if it breaks. I could buy some chain, but I've seen some 50mm wide webbing strap with a mean breaking strain of 5 tons.

Would this be OK to use for this and other general pulling jobs?

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09-29-2003 16:15:49

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Re: Is webbing strap OK for pulling small stumps, in reply to TedM, 09-29-2003 05:10:19

I have found anything non-metal tends to break. I think the ratings for them are not the same as for chain. Or perhaps they just generally underrate chains and overrate straps.
Even chains break but I have better luck with them. If you are concerned about it snapping up at you, just add a bunch of weight to the middle. I believe that should keep it from flying up at you. -Greg

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scotc

09-29-2003 23:07:43

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Re: Re: Is webbing strap OK for pulling small stum in reply to gm, 09-29-2003 16:15:49

thats why guys working oil feilds with small winch cables tend to have a heavy coat on the dozer with them year-round, may not stop the whipping but will keep it from coming up at them

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Aces

09-29-2003 10:36:12

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Re: Is webbing strap OK for pulling small stumps, in reply to TedM, 09-29-2003 05:10:19

Just don't use webbing with steel hock to pull with, if the web brakes the steel hock is like bullet and the will go right through the housing of a tractor or if it hits you in the head you gone.

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Doug in OR

09-29-2003 09:17:20

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Re: Is webbing strap OK for pulling small stumps, in reply to TedM, 09-29-2003 05:10:19

Webbing works fine for this. Just be aware that as you use it on a rough surface (like tree stumps and such) the webbing will develope small cuts from the bark and other sharp edges. When used over and over like this, the webbing will weaken. You would be better off using a chain for this sort of thing. We use webbing at work for lifting, but we lift smooth-edged items with it. If you use webbing for lifting or pulling, you cannot use this same webbing again for any safety-belt or such personal safety applications.

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Don LC

09-29-2003 06:49:02

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Re: Is webbing strap OK for pulling small stumps, in reply to TedM, 09-29-2003 05:10:19

You can use anything that works, but a good 1/2" or 5/8" chain is best....Tractor Supply has chain and hooks....I dont know about the quality.....It is going to take a good chain and a Farmall M to pull 10 footers..... .....

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dave

09-29-2003 06:44:54

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Re: Is webbing strap OK for pulling small stumps, in reply to TedM, 09-29-2003 05:10:19

I have used webbing often in the setting of plastic gas line pipe where metal would mark the pipe.One of the problems is when you pull it hard against a loop it becomes very difficult to get it loose again.It works ok for the pipe work but I would not recommend it for pulling stumps.A cable with a grab hook made for logging works best. dave

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Red Dave

09-29-2003 06:44:17

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Re: Is webbing strap OK for pulling small stumps, in reply to TedM, 09-29-2003 05:10:19

Synthetic webbed strapping is great stuff when used properly in the proper application. We use it in the form of slings, chokers & spreaders to lift many things at work, some of the loads are in the hundreds of tons. I would not use it to pull stumps with my tractor.
Synthetic strapping stretches when it's tensioned, kind of like a rubber band. It returns to original length when tension is released. Rapidly.
If your stump suddenly lets go after a hard pull, it could come at you like a rocket. If the strap slips, it will recoil right into you.
I would use chain for that kind of pull, it doesn't stretch and recoil like straps do.
Just my opinion though.

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TedM

09-29-2003 07:11:22

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Re: Re: Is webbing strap OK for pulling small stum in reply to Red Dave, 09-29-2003 06:44:17

Thanks guys. I didn't know webbing stretched that much. I'll locate some chain nearby. I'm using my 484 to clear out these little stumps, so my 52hp should be up to the task.

When I started doing these early this year I only had a David Brown 850 9about 35hp), which although it pulled a few out OK, I made the BIG MISTAKE of attaching the tow rope a bit too high on the rear end. As soon as I came across one of the tougher stumps the front end came up on me..... ..scared the living s**t out of me. That old DB had no roll over protection and if I'd not been quick on the clutch I'd have been in very big trouble. Nobody should have to learn tractor safety in that way.
I've sold the DB now and got the 484. The cab it came with was a mess and as I really only use use it for mowing with a 8' finishing mower it only goes out in the dry, so I don't need a cab. I still wanted some protection though so I've stripped the cab of all the sheet metalwork and waht was left of the glass and now have a safety frame that I've since added front and rear worklights to.

You can see the tractor as I got it (minus the cab) here:
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Thanks for all the advice..... this forum is a daily visit for me!

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JDknut

09-29-2003 09:11:14

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Re: Re: Re: Is webbing strap OK for pulling small in reply to TedM, 09-29-2003 07:11:22

Sharp-lookin' tractor. Nice job on the ROPS, too.

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Brent in Iowa

09-29-2003 10:32:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Is webbing strap OK for pulling sm in reply to JDknut, 09-29-2003 09:11:14

Nice looking tractor. Just for safety's sake (if you haven't already) you may want to check to see if your original cab was a ROPS cab or just a plain cab. If it wasn't certified as a ROPS cab then what you have left will not be a ROPS frame either. Don't want anyone getting hurt if there is an accident.

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TedM

09-29-2003 13:36:28

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is webbing strap OK for pullin in reply to Brent in Iowa, 09-29-2003 10:32:56

Hi Brent,
Interesting thought on the frame. When I was tidying the frame (i.e. stripping everything off it) I did manage to save a plate on it that states the following:

"(can't be read)... Co. Of Great Britain Ltd.
Serial No. 40 605 (numbers stamped in)
Approved for use with
484,584, 684, (more models that can't be read clearly)"

I take this, hopefully, to mean that it's a certified ROPS frame. But I could very well be wrong. Lucky my bit of land is very flat, but you can never be too safe.

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Brent in Iowa3

09-29-2003 13:54:45

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is webbing strap OK for pu in reply to TedM, 09-29-2003 13:36:28

I couldn't tell youif it is ROPS or not. In the U.S. around 1985 was the year all manufacturers were using ROPS certified cabs, although most had them well before that. Here the tag has to say ROPS certifed and have an OSHA or ASAE seal on it. You may want to check with your local dealer to see if your 484 cab would have been ROPS when it was new. Take care...Brent

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09-29-2003 18:26:21

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is webbing strap OK fo in reply to Brent in Iowa3, 09-29-2003 13:54:45

5/16" grade 80 or 90 chain should withstand all a 484 will pull. If possible hook tractor as close to stump as possible so that you only have a couple feet of chain that is being pulled on. If 2 ft of chain does break it will drop on the ground.

Never JERK the chain, pull evenly in 1st or 2nd gear LO.

Be careful, keep your foot close to the clutch. If you are hooking a chain to the 3pt hitch drawbar, only raise the 3pt hitch to the hieght even with the PTO shaft.

Good luck
JB

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