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400 farmall Deisel

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Allisrules

10-02-2003 14:17:52




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I have come into a 400 farmall it was left to me by my uncle on his passing.I was just worndering if anyone had addapted larger starters or had installed glow plugs in the intake manifold.Also a heater in the pipe comming from the air cleaner to get away from starting this thing on gas and make it a more mordern setup.




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Red Rider

10-02-2003 19:02:23




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 Re: 400 farmall Deisel in reply to Allisrules, 10-02-2003 14:17:52  
Allisrules, I have three of these IH gas start diesels and they all start very well. This style of diesel will not start directly on diesel unless like the previous post you have has the tractor running long enough to get the temp up to operating range. Those how use either to start them directly on diesel are head for a big repair bill as this will eventually destroy the piston. Either will get down into the ring groves and crack the lands. If you keep the ignition maintained these gas start diesels will fire and run on the first revolution. Let them run for 60 seconds and they will switch to diesel without problem. The reason they won't start up on diesel is the compression is only 15 to 1 which is to low to build enough heat to fire cold. Most direct start diesels are in the 21 to 1 range.

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Jimmy King

10-03-2003 04:40:15




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 Re: Re: 400 farmall Deisel in reply to Red Rider, 10-02-2003 19:02:23  
Had a block heater on the one I had I started it 5:00 AM -7 degrees out side all night.



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26Red

10-02-2003 15:19:26




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 Re: 400 farmall Deisel in reply to Allisrules, 10-02-2003 14:17:52  
I'm not sure if you really can do that. The head is designed with a precombustion chamber for starting on gas. Butterfly valves close it off when running on diesel. Get a operator's manual from binder books dot com. Follow the start up and shut down procedures to the letter or you may end up with a warped starting valve or cracked head. These systems work well when they are setup right. Sometimes you can start it directly on diesel if the motor is hot(previously running within 30 minutes). Maybe the guys on the puller forum can help you with your direct start mods.

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26Red

10-02-2003 15:26:49




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 Re: Re: 400 farmall Deisel in reply to 26Red, 10-02-2003 15:19:26  
To clarify my previous post, there are no butterfly valves in the head- sorry about the typo. It should say starting valves.



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