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Jay

10-22-2003 20:09:58




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Just wandering what is the best way to paint tractor rims with the tires mounted on them without getting paint all over the rubber? any little painting tips you guys would care to share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks




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steve

10-25-2003 22:55:22




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
vaseline,..... ..... ..... . it will serve two purposes, keep paint from stickin to the tires and when you wipe it off you're tires will shine



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Catskill Pete

10-23-2003 11:50:24




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
I have come full circle on rims, used to brush paint them, then tried masking, grease, soap etc. to spray them. All the masking proved to be just as time consuming as the brush did and difficult to remove afterward. So I'm back to the brush, However there is a "secret" to a nice brush job. Apply the first coat and it will look terrible with all the brush strokes and thin spots showing through, But wait for first coat to dry [usually 24 hours] and apply a second coat fairly heavy and it will flow into the brush strokes and dry to a nice smooth finish. It works with aluminum or colored paints.

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Buzzman72

10-23-2003 08:01:29




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
Over the years, my dad painted hundreds of H's, M's, Cub's, and other Farmalls. After everything was steam-cleaned with something called 49-S compound, the sheet metal surfaces were sanded, primered and painted separately; the rest of the tractor was gone over with a wire brush/wire brush wheel in a drill to remove any flaking/loose paint, rust, etc. After "masking" the lights and gauges with grease, the rest of the tractor was then sprayed. When it came to the rims, Dad jacked up the rear axle (with shop towels on the jack pad, to keep from scuffing/scratching the new paint), and then applied the aluminum enamel to the rims with a 2" brush...taking his time, making sure there were no runs or brush strokes on either the wheel centers or the tire...usually doing this while sitting on an overturned 5-gallon bucket. For the fronts on an H or M, he'd drive ONE front tire up on a block--same block he used for wheel bearing jobs--and paint the rim the same way he did the rears. By being patient, he usually got a near-perfect job...and never had to mess with what could have been cantankerous rim bolts (imagine what having to resort to the ol' "smoke wrench" would've done to his new paint job...and genuine IH red paint was NEVER cheap!).

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Bill

10-23-2003 07:50:50




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
I have not had to worry about the rear rims because somebody has already taken the good tires off before I get the tractor and I have have to buy new tires. Here is what I do on the front rims.
1. let the air out of the tire
2. take visqueen (?) and cut a hole in it just smaller then the diameter of the rim.
3. press on the side wall with your hand and push the visqueen between the rim and tire with a screwdriver.
4. after painting just pull the plastic out and put air back in the tire.

Bill

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Joe Evans

10-23-2003 07:09:16




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
Use a combination of a circular segment cardboard cut-out and newspaper. The cardboard cut-out alone is not enough to prevent the mist from getting on the unprotected areas of the tire's sidewall. There is not a paint existing that gets all over everything more than aluminum paint. Got the mug to prove it. The side walls can be covered rather quickly with newspaper as you are not tediously shaping it to the rim's arc. The cardboard can be shaped by laying it on the rim edge, lightly tapping the cardboard with a hammer to leave an arc track, then cutting the cardboard to the track. Try not to use the common corrugated box cardboard. You want something thin enough that will slip down between the rim edge and tire totally covering the sidewall at this junction. Tire mfrs. strongly suggest avoiding any application of petroleum products on tires as they tend to degrade the rubber. I have seen excellent jobs done with a foam brush if you would rather not spray. Aluminum paint is very fluid and brushes out nicely.

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WIRED

10-23-2003 07:02:27




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
I just did the same on the fronts and rears three weeks ago.

1) Take rims off of the wheel castings.
2) Wash rims/tires.
3) Remove old paint with a knotted wire wheel on your angle grinder. 4) Sand remaining surface until smooth.
5) Wipe with tack cloth.
6) Using electrical tape, tape off the tire immediately adjacent to the rim.
7) Using 3" masking tape, tape off the edge of the electrical tape.
8) Tape plastic wrap to the edge of the masking tape. This should cover the remaining portion of the side of the tire for the rears, or wrap completely around the fronts.
9) Prop the tire up vertically.
10) Set paint gun to spray horizontally.
11) Prime
12) Wait 4 hours. Inspect surface, scuff.
13) Paint. Recoat in 1 hour.
14) Cure for 24 to 48 hours.
15) Remove tape/plastic wrap.
16) Reinstall rims on wheel castings.
17) Open beer. Admire quality of work.
18) Repeat 17.

WIRED

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scotty

10-23-2003 11:48:12




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 Re: Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to WIRED, 10-23-2003 07:02:27  
Wired, Amen for angle grinders, knotted wire brushes and Beer!!!

scotty



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Ohio Bill

10-23-2003 05:33:06




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
In the past I painted with brush but decided to do something different 2 days ago. I took tires off and began masking around the tire bead with 2-inch masking tape, using short sections until I was all the way around the tire. Then I covered the remainder of the tires with newspaper. It was a tedious process and took all day by the time I wire brushed them, applied primer and finish coat. But the airgun finish I have was well worth the effort!
I painted them at a 45-degree angle leaning a against a 55-gallon barrrel. Painted used was Carquest Centari Aluminum.

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Duner Wi

10-23-2003 05:26:18




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
I take a sheet of cardboard and press it onto the rim, then cut out with tin snips part of a circle. Move it around as I paint.



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GG

10-23-2003 05:19:47




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
I have had good results by masking items with plastic electrical tape. After practice, you can make small circles with this type tape.



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K-Mo

10-23-2003 04:41:05




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
I take the wheel off so I can lay it down and use roof flashing. The curve of the flashing off the roll easily adjusts to the diamater of the rim. I find this provides a good barrier for spray painting.
K-Mo



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Nebraska Cowman

10-23-2003 04:29:19




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
I use a bristle brush for aluminum paint. Otherwise I just squirt away with the paint gun. Unless you get realy caried away a little overspray hardly shows and soon fades.



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Mike ISW

10-23-2003 02:52:47




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
I sanded down rims and painted with a small faom brush and was careful and didn't get any paint on my tires. Turned out great. Mike



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Ron in Nebr

10-22-2003 21:32:15




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
A trick I heard was to smear a thin coat of Vaseline on the tire sidewall, then when you're done painting you can just wipe it off and the tire will be clean.



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Slowpoke

10-23-2003 01:35:42




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 Re: Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Ron in Nebr, 10-22-2003 21:32:15  
It also works good on equipment tags, using an artist's paint brush.



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bindernut

10-22-2003 23:17:54




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 Re: Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Ron in Nebr, 10-22-2003 21:32:15  
Saw a guy painting a flatbed once. Used this method, substituting grease for vasoline, to keep paint off of the rims & the lights also. Worked well.



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Farmer Bob

10-22-2003 20:51:33




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 Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Jay, 10-22-2003 20:09:58  
Patience!! and a good brush.



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JIM

10-23-2003 05:26:08




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 Re: Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Farmer Bob, 10-22-2003 20:51:33  
3-M MAKES A PRODUCT CALLED LIQUID MASK SPRAY ON TIRE WITH PAINT GUN,WIPE WHEEL OFF,PAINT WHEEL AFTER PAINT DRIES WASH TIRE OFF WITH WATER HOSE .THIS WORKS WELL FOR ME.



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sphincter007

10-23-2003 05:25:21




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 Re: Re: painting rims with tires mounted in reply to Farmer Bob, 10-22-2003 20:51:33  
Just spray paint as usual.After paint dries,take a rag saturated with brake fluid and rub on tire.
Paint will curdle and come off easily.



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