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Were They Serious

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Wide Open Throt

10-30-2003 05:32:47




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I was recently looking through some old advertisements, when I came upon a IH 4100.
The photo they showed had it pulling an 8 bottom plow. That had to be a huge load. My neighbor pulls a 4 bottom w/ his and he said it is a load sometimes.Has anyone ever pulled a 8 bottom w/ a 4100, or were they just trying to make the tractor look bigger than it really is?




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Hugh MacKay

10-30-2003 16:10:49




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 Re: Were They Serious in reply to Wide Open Throttle, 10-30-2003 05:32:47  
The 4100 should pull 8 bottoms just about anywhere. I had a 5x16 seni- mount plow that I bought for use behind my 1066. It turned out to be such a light load for 1066 that I pulled it with 656. I will grant you my soil was a sandy loam, however I always plowed 7to 8 inches deep. I have seen guys pulling 7 and 8 with 1066 and 1466. I have neighbor who pulls 10x18 with a Case that is same configuration as that 4100. I think he told me it was under 200 hp. Plows really only require about 10 to 15 hp per bottom.

40 years ago I remember a guy in our neighbourhood buying a new Cochshutt 570 diesel and a 5x16 trailer plow. He plowed some quite heavy hills with that old Cockshutt. When you get a tractor loaded to point where you can't pull the plow or disk more than 4 mph your wear and breakage will be far less and fields much smoother. These new high speed bottoms just become a more expensive way to farm, and less profit for you. When you sit in that tractor seat for 15 to 18 hours per day for weeks at a time or 44 hours in two days as I have done, that high speed hurts the human flesh more than the tractor and plow. I know some of you will say," Hugh If you were going faster it wouldn't take so long." Hogwash, I say this game is about making money not high speed. When you can drive a 70s full size Ford or Chevy sedan at 50 mph on your fields, on sod of course, the fields are smooth.

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parts man

10-30-2003 20:17:17




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 Re: Re: Were They Serious in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-30-2003 16:10:49  
Hugh, I couldn't agree more!! My grandfather always said, "It's not how much money you take in, it's how much you have left!"



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RPM

10-30-2003 05:47:40




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 Re: Were They Serious in reply to Wide Open Throttle, 10-30-2003 05:32:47  
In certain types of soil you can pull that many, wondering if picture you seen was a 4300 that was pulling a 8 bottom flex plow.



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Wide Open Throttle

10-31-2003 05:24:31




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 Re: Re: Were They Serious in reply to RPM , 10-30-2003 05:47:40  
Maybe it wasn't so odd after all. Iam used to 1066's pulling 3 bottoms and 1566's pulling 5 bottoms. Around my area the soil is gray clay, plows like concrete every year. I have a 2470 Case pullin a 5 bottom, has its pants full sometimes.



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