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Brakes on IH 424

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Keewaydin

11-01-2003 07:56:32

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We're trying to get a 424 back into service after it's been stored for three years.New battey, fresh gas and new plugs got it running pretty fair but the brakes are shot. I've never worked on tnis type of brakes, on a jackshaft and squeezing a driven friction plate between two anchored pressure plates. Local advice claims the friction plate gets glazed over although there's no oil on it and advises roughing it up with rotary wire brush. Another source says the brake housings can be mounted in a lathe so a little chip can be taken off the side that fits up against the differential casting
and theoretically put more pressure on the friction plate. Afraid that would take a little tricky dial gauge work to set up tho. Another fellow says to put the metal pressue plates in a woodstove firebox and torch it up until the plates are almost red. Then let it all cool and the brakes should work. Claims it burns the grease out of the pores in the metal. Anyone out there have any thoughts on my problem? Looks like this may be a weakness with 424s. Owning one myself I've looked at several others I've come across and I can't remember a one that had perfect brakes and a couple of gents said they needed lots of TLC Thanks for your help.

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11-01-2003 17:19:14

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Re: Brakes on IH 424 in reply to Keewaydin, 11-01-2003 07:56:32

Is this the same brake arrangement as a B414,434,444 where there is an inner and outer friction disk between 2 metal disks that have 3 roller balls that roll up a ramp and separate the metal disks and it is all enclosed in a housing on the side of the differential? If it is the same this what I used to do on our B414D and 434D:
1)Take the glazing off the friction disk with rotary wire brush.
2)Cleanup balls and ramps and apply very light cote of white grease.
3)If someone has relaced the friction disk they may not be seating flat against the metal surfaces. They maybe riding up on the ridge produced by wear on the outside circumference of the metal surfaces. This happened to a neighbor and he had to grind down the outside circumference of the friction disks to fit snuggly against the metal surfaces.

Good luck
JB

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11-01-2003 14:04:24

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Re: Brakes on IH 424 in reply to Keewaydin, 11-01-2003 07:56:32

I have a 364 and consider it a shame that I.H. would have such sorry brakes on a machine of this quality. I have tried nearly every suggestion recomended and still don't have brakes that will stop the tractor on a hill. I have come to the conclusion that I will live with this poor design and be very careful during operation.

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