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How do you get out of it!?

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49 Cubber!

11-08-2003 06:03:07




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I have had it!Im through with collecting antique tractors!I dont plan on selling any of my family tractors,but may sell one or two I have,not sure.I definately am not going to display anymore.I have just had it.Too much work involved just to get there for me,tired of the same old shows ever year with the same old tractors going to the same shows every year,you go to one then another and its just the same tractors in a different show.cant afford the luxury of traveling half way across the country or even 100 miles to see something else,although I WAS saving to go to RPR someday!I hate to admit it guys,but seems the same thing that happened to the Deere tractors has happened to the IH and noone has seen it!Its not about the tractors,the history,the memeories anymore.Its about the money.Thanks for the rant!

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GT

11-11-2003 06:45:58




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
Hello Sir,
I can imagine your frustration. I am new to this tractor business, and only use mine for work around the small farm that I have. I am pretty moved every time that I start my old 400. And I feel that I am, in a small way, keeping a heritage alive by keeping it running and working. I have gotten a lot of pleasure and some great information from your posts on here. And I hope that your knowledge and experience is still available to us to help us out of all of the fixes and troubles that us "rookies" seem to get our selves into.
I hope that you have a great life that is filled with NOTHING but happiness and satisfaction.
Thank You!!!

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Buzzman72

11-09-2003 08:26:30




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
Cubber, by now you've seen a ton of responses, and most of 'em are telling you to hang in there. THOSE are the ones to listen to; the ones telling you to take a little time off and regain your perspective are pretty much on the mark, too. I haven't started on my rebuild/restoration/whatever on dad's old '44 H yet, but let me relate my perspective from my experiences with old trucks.

In 1988, I bought a '52 International pickup, a 1/2-ton long bed, similar to the one Dad and grand-dad used for a service truck/parts chaser throughout the '50's and '60's at their Farmall garage. After using it as a daily driver for a couple of years, I took it to dad's so he and I could begin the process of restoring it. While it was parked outside there, vandals came along and stole the radio and broke every piece of glass in it. Sreious damage, but not enough to meet dad's garage deductible. Then, in '91, dad (age 61) died unexpectedly; 15 months later, my wife (age 36) also died, from the same type of heart problems. I was devastated, and I just couldn't bring myself to deal with the truck again.

Finally, I decided that all the good memories I had of hunting and fishing and parts runs and service calls with dad in his old '52 were just too much a part of me to ignore. But I was also torn between restoration and street rodding it, as I know those old drivetrain parts can be a battle to find. Then last October I ran across a '51 pickup, nearly identical to my '52 in equipment, and I drove 8 hours (one way) in a borrowed rig to pick it up. Now I have one I'm trying to restore, and one to build a rod out of...the best of BOTH worlds.

Parts availability isn't exactly good; I robbed the gas tank off the '52 to have one for the '51, and now I'm gonna have to either find or build one for the '52 (since it's now the rod candidate, I'm considering dual tanks so fabrication won't be out of the question anyway). The grille on the '51 has been altered, bent, and only partially straightened, and NOBODY makes a replacement grille for one of these yet...but I'm still looking.

My point is, the guys with $$ signs in their eyes have made a lot of the stuff relatively unaffordable. I can't say they're wrong, because I probably would've done the same thing in their shoes. But I also realize that I won't be building EITHER of my trucks to show...because Internationals aren't "politically correct" with show judges, and neither are some of my possible engine choices for the rod truck...so rather than go to a show and come away mad because something with less quality and workmanship and USABILITY beat me, I'm just gonna build 'em for my OWN enjoyment, and maybe my kids can develop the same appreciation for 'em that I have...or, if the $$$ folks keep driving the prices up, maybe my grandkids--if/when I have any--can use 'em to pay for Harvard Law School when the time comes.

Keep your sense of humor about things, and do it because it makes YOU feel good...don't feel obligated to go to shows, etc; just display 'em when and where YOU want (parades, etc.) and don't worry about competition. Just like my trucks... I don't have any competition because nobody else knows what memories I'm building them to honor.

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Shaggy

11-09-2003 07:07:26




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
The past couple of years I have been getting into the tractor's again and its been fun. I have done 2 HTA's. 1 on my Dads BN and the other on my Super A that look a little rough but runs like a top. I have seen a few BIG money tractors break down and the owner doesn't have a clue and what to do to get them going again or even what to look for. I am not a expert by far but I try to be helpful when I can.

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Rex

11-09-2003 07:06:00




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
I can certainly relate to your delima. I decided a year ago to buy and restore an antique tractor and decided that no matter what I was going to restore this tractor. It has cost me a lots of hard earned money and all my spare time but when it cranked for the first time in 25 years I also came to life. Surly you have'nt forgotten that feeling. I wish you the best of everything!



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Dan in Ore

11-09-2003 03:24:42




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
Cubber,

I think I can relate to what you are going through. Several years ago, this thing got me down also. I had to quit for about 2 years. I didn't sell anything and am real glad I didn't.

I wouldn't attend shows or even work on a tractor.

Finally my son came by and heckled me to finish an F-12 that I had in the shop for a long time. We finished it just in time for our spring show.

I took it to the show and the elderly gentleman that I got the tractor from saw it. His first response was that it wasn't the same tractor. After I convinced him it was the tractor his response was "at least I gave it to the right person". That kind of made it all worth it.

Maybe a break will work for you, I know it did for me. Just think long and hard how much trouble it will be to replace anything you sell.

Just my $0.02

Dan

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Red Rider

11-08-2003 22:23:10




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
49 Cubber, I don't know of any hobby that is cheap these days or that was ever cheap at any time of our history. There will alway be those who have more expensive toys than I can afford. It might take me longer to restore one of my tractors but the feeling and satisfaction I have when I am finished is priceless. For me restoring a tractor is strictly for me not for some elses benefit. If someone else gets enjoyment in my finished project then thats just frosting on the cake. If I did not enjoy this hobby then I would change hobbys without all the complaining to all those who enjoy it. Face it we all make sacrifices when it comes to our hobbys.

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Jonathan Mirgon

11-08-2003 21:48:03




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
I can understand your frustration with the price issues. I am only 27 and decided that I was going to buy a rundown farmall and bring it back to life, jus beacause I like old tractors, the new ones do not impress me. I ended up buying two a's for 600.00, they were both basically parts tractors but I put the two together to make one, I have replaced every seal and gasket on it, rebuilt the engine top to bottom, new carb, and the list goes on, new rims tires etc.To make a long story short I have about 4,000 dollars invested in this 1940 (a) and it is still not quite ready for the paint job. I have ??? hours into it, and its probably worth 2500 dollars to someone if I sold it. But you have to admit that it gives you a good sense of pride in seeing your accomplishment, junk to a brand new tractor, And I did it. I swore to myself that I would never sell it because I know if I did I would lose a ton of money, and someone would be getting a brand new tractor. So I will keep it forever and it will become my sons when I am gone. I would keep all your tractors as you have a lot of time and money invested that you probably wont get back. I think that everone on this forum is pretty honest and most of them like old farmalls and have an interest in helping other people that have questions. You have replied to several questions that I had when working on my (a) and have been very helpfull to me and Im sure many other people. keep your nicely restored tractors and take a break from the shows. I have become addicted to this hobby, I am still working on the (a) and then found a nice looking (h) for a good price and bought it too. I am ony 28 years old and the prices for parts are high, In the past I have ordered parts from individuals that claim them to be in excellent condition, and when I open the ups box I find a part that is far worse condition than the one that I have and am trying to replace. But to me in the end it is worth it. I have seen pictures of your tractors here on this site and they look to good to me for you to give it up ! hang in there , but if you decide to quit make sure you stay on this site to help us young guys out, by the way appreciate all the help you have given me.

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Jonathan

11-08-2003 19:37:30




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
I don't take all of my tractors to a show, and the best part of going to shows for me is to sit underneith the exhibitors tent and shoot the shutt with people you don't see but once or twice a year. The thing I hate about going to shows is all the light fingered and destructive people that walk through. This last year somebody took my pipe plug off my '46 H that I had plugging the old loader line. Somebody also took the liberty of messing with the distributer cap so that it wasn't on straight and I didn't discover it until after attempting to pull it. It's stupid stuff like that that really pisses me off. I really love old tractors, but I find myself hesitating about taking my tractors to next years show.

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Paul in Mich

11-08-2003 20:56:11




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 Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to Jonathan, 11-08-2003 19:37:30  
I've found that the thing people like to "borrow" more than anything else is the ignition switch knob. Thats why I automatically remove it before someone else gets a chance. Otherwise, I've had no trouble. I find that for the most part that people who go to tractor shows are respectfull. I can't say the same, however for the overall crowd that attend flea market/tractor shows. I think picking the right shows is the prudent thing for all of us to practice. I don't even pretend to want to go to just any show.

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Al

11-08-2003 19:18:02




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
A couple of months ago I was having trouble with a super H headlight that was working on the bench but not on tractor. I had traced all wiring and thought I had checked the grounds. Some VERY NICE Gentleman came on this forum to explain the ground and that I should check that again and guess what. I found out a little bit of rust can destroy a good ground. Thanks for that advice for that was you 49 cubber. Do not give up. You do more than you think.

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CNKS

11-08-2003 18:54:12




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
Yes, it costs a lot of money, particularly when I buy new parts from Case-IH, but I went into this with my eyes open. I am 65 and am fixing up tractors I saw/used when I was a kid -- no shows around here close enough for me to attend. I have bought new and used parts from Steel Wheel Ranch, reconditioned ones from Bates, new ones from Carter and Gruenwald, OEM and others, NOS parts from justin and Haas, who post on this board -- all had prices I consider fair, and they aren't out to scalp anyone. I avoid ebay and most private ads as for the most part they are overpriced (not talking about you NE Cowman), although I won't say I'll never use them, never is a long time. I haven't sold nor do I have any plans to sell anything yet, perhaps before I go into the nursing home. If the price scares you, you really should get another hobby, or perhaps not do as much -- take a vacation from it. That's what I intend to do if I get burned out.

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Kelly C

11-08-2003 18:28:42




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
I suggest that if you still want to restore tractors. You quit doing Cubs and A's.
Those are Yuppie fodder now.
Start doing H's and M's. Still plenty of those around for cheap and the bone yards are stocked with parts.



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Hugh MacKay

11-09-2003 08:23:36




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 Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to Kelly C, 11-08-2003 18:28:42  
Kelly: Watch your tongue, I am definately not a Yuppie.



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Brown Dirt Cowboy

11-09-2003 09:39:33




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 Re: Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-09-2003 08:23:36  
Hugh, Kelly sure knows how to step on a guy, imagine calling us YUPPIES. Later. Tom



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Hugh MacKay

11-09-2003 13:12:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to Brown Dirt Cowboy, 11-09-2003 09:39:33  
Tom: Vivid imagionation eh. HaHaHa. We'll have to get him for that. A drive to MN and decorate one of his round bales. We'll need a theme.



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farmalls

11-08-2003 17:53:07




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
theres new blood out their yet im just a kid and im working to fix my great grandfathers super C, it sat in my grandpas barn for the past 17 years and this summer he passed away leaving a john deere 650 deisel a garden tractor and this super C, im not in it for money i want to ride the super C he road has a kid, and i want to plow the feilds my great gandfather plowed dont quit because your tired, and if you do try and help someone who cant do it, like me i need help on everything, and i wish i had the money and could say i more then one working tractor

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farmallgod

11-08-2003 17:17:56




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
49 Cubber I don't know you or what part of the country you are from but let me say this. Every show I've ever been to at least 2-3 people have stopped and reminissed with me and my father for hours on our tractors talking about a simpler time. I'm 23 am I cant tell you how much pleasure it gives me to talk to these older folks who had these things when they were my age. It's really something. I also do it because it is something my father brother and I do together. Yes it does sometimes make you frustrated. And yes you still can find good deals you just have to keep your eyes open. I'm sorry the post is so long I just don't think this "tradition" needs to lose people.And the tractors we bring back to life don't either.

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Larry

11-08-2003 17:09:09




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
I'm gonna put my 2 cents in here, even though my better judgement is telling me to keep my big mouth shut. I've got a few old tractors...5 to be exact, everyone of them had problems when I got them, from valves leaking and tractor missing out, to trashed blocks with water in the oil and locked up. I've fixed them up, its been work and has cost some money, but I've enjoyed doing it, and I've done it right, and I've got tractors I use and really enjoy. I've never taken a single one to a tractor show, or an old tractor pull. Now please don't let this get all you guys in an uproar....but in my opinion...and its just my opinion....I think its just pretty much dumb and a waste of time and effort, although I do like to go to tractor shows and look at what other people of done. I agree with him that its mostly a...."who can spend the most money thing" at tractor shows. What I'm saying is this, I've done mine for ME. Everyone I've fixed up, I've done because there was a memory associated with that particular model, or something I remembered as a kid I liked about a tractor "like that". Anyway, I'm saying I understand what he's talking about to some degree, but I think he's missing the point, Old tractors (in my opinion) aren't worth one darn dime, unless you use them for something constructive--if its mowing the grass, or gardening, or hay rack rides, pushing snow, or baling hay, or just taking a ride on one--just to be driving it. What I've seen is tractors painted to the point, they don't want a little kid to climb on and pretend to drive....scratching up the paint. Come on, give me a break, that ain't what tractors are for! I just think the point of all this is to what makes you happy, and I'm sure that will be different for each and everyone of us. For me, its having good tires on them and having them start right up and run right, and being ready when I want to use them, I also like for them to look good, without oil leaks, and decent paint---and as far as if yours looks better than mine---I couldn't care less.

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farmallgod

11-08-2003 20:00:05




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 Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to Larry, 11-08-2003 17:09:09  
Larry I agree with you to a point! The shows that attend usually there are just as many tractors unrestored as restored. And yes tractors were ment to be worked..... .but the same thing goes with old cars they were made to be driven. So when I go to a show I don't want kids climbing all over my tractors not because they will scratch the paint but what happens if they get hurt? Nowadays people will sue you over anything. I think thats why most people don't like others touching or climbing all over there tractors.I am always happy to give a kid a ride on my tractors as well as most people I know. You may not take your tractor to show that's your perogative but maybe your missing out on some things. I love it when someone comes up to me and says they remember using one or learning how to drive on one etc. I am 23 yrs old and when an older person tells me that one of my tractors looks like it just came off the assembly line that makes me feel damn good.Considering my father and I do ALL of the work ourselves together.Take your tractors to a show I bet the you have a good time.

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Time! To! Hang! It! Up!

11-08-2003 16:00:08




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
If! you! don't! enjoy! it! then! it's! time! to! hang! it! up!



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49 Cubber!My Problem is..

11-08-2003 15:58:26




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
for those that want to know,has nothing to do with my tractor not looking as good or looking better than anyone elses.Its not rude or even nice comments.Its not the fact that I cant find parts for my tractors,I can.Its not going to shows and being put down or praised.My problem is this:Im tired of it!I spent nearly two thousand dollars on my last project,my 49 Cub!No engine work,no tranny work,mostly cosmetic and gaskets and seals.Five years ago,the same things I bought wouldnt have cost me nearly half that,not half!Why? has this hobby grown so much that a man or woman must be bleeding rich to be able to afford enjoying it now?Inflation you say,well maybe some of it.Parts getting harder to get ,well maybe that too as more tractors are restored each year used parts are getting harder to find every day,even the most common parts are getting hard to come by.SO you say wait a little bit and try again,but it has gotten to the point now where if you have the money to get a part,say a hood,and someone has it,but wants more than what you have,some guy with a wad in in pocket can jump up and get it and where are you at?Again looking for a part that noone has,trust me this has happened to me more than once and recently too.What has happened to the "word" betwwen gentlemen?Does it not mean anything anymore,has it gone to ALL first come first serve,which I can and do understand? Let me tell you all what got me to thinking about giving it up!I was at one of the local shows a couple of weekends ago.Theres this one guy that comes and sells new and used parts,mostly for John Deeres on the new and used,but a few IH and others.Guy walks up to him and asks if he has a headlight gasket to fit his H I think is what he said,guy says yes 4 bucks.The man pays him and walks off with his gasket.Second guy comes up,he has an IH hat one,tells the fellow selling that the first guy said the headlight was the same as his headlight on his Farmall M so he wanted to get two of them.Chrges the guy 18 bucks for both,9 each.Whos the dishonest one,the seller right,but has this spread throughout the hobby?I think so.I do want to keep all of the tractors I have now and plan on it,maybe my children will have some use for them one day,or they can tear them down for parts and make a killing off them.

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Nebraska Cowman

11-08-2003 16:45:21




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 Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber!My Problem is.., 11-08-2003 15:58:26  
this has to be a labor of love. It is in my blood, sorry, and I still make money at it; (although that is not my primary goal) I put stuff on ebay and folks pay what they want. I figure I am doing a service cuz they can't find what they want where they live. I am always honest in my deals, try to treat everyone fair, and if some kid comes to my place needing a part I may just give it to him to help him out, the same way a lot of older guys have helped me. I suggest you find a hobby you enjoy.

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BIG JOHN

11-08-2003 12:55:22




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
Cubber - Stand back and take a deap breath. This is not something you want to give up, you are just frustrated.

This whole thing is not about wheather someone else has nicer tractors than you do or if there is someone that likes to go to each and every show.

You, I am sure are getting much more out of this hobby than those things. The successful search for a part or tractor. The nice people that you meet while pursuing this hobby. The old timers that just want to tell you about their experiences with a tractor just like the one that you have.

My very best day was when I had been out excersizing one of my B's and an ole guy (88) being driven by his granddaughter stoped. He just wanted to tell his granddaughter all about the one he had and how much he and grandma had to do with out so that they could buy it. I finally talked him into taking it for a spin with me standing on the draw bar. I am sure that he couldn't have been any happier the day that he brought his new tractor home than he was that day.

I can't even remember his name but it sure makes me feel good evertime I think about that day.

HANG IN THERE

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Redd Butt,

11-08-2003 11:56:20




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
I'm really confused as to your problem, is it that other tractors are winning shows and yours aren't? Why are you dumping your tractors? If you are that ticked off, why not quit showing and start using? Not picking, but I just don't understand the post, maybe a chillpill is in order.



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Brad

11-08-2003 11:35:59




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
I'm not sure what the rant was all about. It seems to me people have to do only what they want to do. I love my 1946 A and I love working on it and I look forward to restoring my father's Farmall 350. I do the restoration work in my spare time as I feel the need to relax and unwind. Shows are a completely different thing all together, but I do love to look at nice long rows of red tractors... and pick up a few needed parts. If it was just about the money none of us would be doing this, except the professional restorers.

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Dave Olson

11-08-2003 09:16:12




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
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Here are some pictures of what Mike was talking about.

I don't think this fellow goes to any shows anymore. Lines his collection up for anyone interested to stop and see. Even has a book for folks to sign in if they want to tell him where they are from.

I happen to stop by when he was home an chatted for awhile. I don't have any Green tractors but this fellow has quite a collection!

Dave Olson - East-Central Illinois

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Dave Olson

11-08-2003 09:18:30




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 Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to Dave Olson, 11-08-2003 09:16:12  
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Here is another looking the other direction from the driveway.



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Dave Olson

11-08-2003 09:20:44




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 Re: Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to Dave Olson, 11-08-2003 09:18:30  
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A sign at the front drive.



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jf

11-08-2003 09:09:33




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
I understand your frustration. Society in general is now about money grabbers. Take the medical crisis in our country. The doctors, insurance companies, hospitals, research facilities, drug companies are in in it together, pointing fingers at one another, yet feeding at the proverbial trough. We as a society in general are now just greedy. I hope you keep up the tradition so at least the younger folks have an idea of our agriculture hertage and the role the american farmer has played in the development of our strong culture/society. Do not leave this up to the american education system or americas youth will think chocolate milk comes from brown cows. America is already too ag illiterate.

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its more than just.......

11-08-2003 08:51:49




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
the show deal and the knock downs I get at shows or even the compliments I get.This "hobby" has gone to those with more money than I have,IMHO.I am not poor by no means,but not rich either.What happened to the days of,"I need a part,got one","Sure come get it".Now its "I got it,but itll cost the heck out of ya to get."I saw it happen to the JD and a couple of other makes,and now,even woth the thousands of IH tractors that were produced,there arent any used parts that either dont need complete rebuilding or are just plain junk.Even the used parts guys are getting bad about screwing people over.(Not all of them mind you,I do have several good new and used parts sources!)I just hate toi see this hobby go to ruin by those with a few more bucks in their pockets,thats all.I dont want to see it but it will come that and there is not a thing the little man can do about it.Again thanks for the rant!Cubber!

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Paul in Mich

11-08-2003 20:21:34




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 Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to its more than just......., 11-08-2003 08:51:49  
Sounds as though a couple of you guys are defining greed as the guy that makes a profit from selling an item, be it a part or a whole tractor for what someone else is willing to pay. I call that supply and demand. I would also define greed as the guy who wants what the other guy has for free. I've found that a lot of the fun in this hobby is the thrill of the chase, so to speak. That is searching for parts and trying to find the best price. If everything is free, then what is it worth? There is a big big difference in something being priceless and being worthless. Think about it.

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Farmer Bob

11-08-2003 08:46:48




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
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Cubber, In response to your post, You Don't get out of it. Not if you want to keep alive the memories of yesteryear. In the picture above, the old man on the left with the walking cane was crying when I snapped this photo during a local show. I spoke at length with him while he was standing by this tractor and as he reflecting back to a time when he got to drive one for the first time. He shared that these old tractors were far better than humans and a lot cheaper to work on to keep running. In his 90's, to him the person who restored this beauty was a hero! I guess it is all about perspective. To me, If I can help keep alive a memory from the past for someone then all the time, money, scraped knuckles, sore muscles, etc. are well worth it! Yes it may get old at times and we all know it takes money to do it. But, without us collectors/restorers this phase of American agriculture and the family farm scene will surely be lost forever.

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49 Cubber!

11-08-2003 08:55:45




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 Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to Farmer Bob, 11-08-2003 08:46:48  
Thats my point exactly,the old man was crying!I dont know what he felt but Im sure it was wonderful memeories,or maybe bad ones,I dont know.But the thoughts the man was thinking and what he was feeling,to me has gotten lost,and the mighty$$ has replaced it.Look at the ads,photo ads and auctions.See what I mean.



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Jesse

11-08-2003 09:59:58




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 Re: Re: Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber!, 11-08-2003 08:55:45  
No doubt I would be considered one of those guilty of charging high prices. I understand the frustration. I am 30 years old and have an attachment to these tractors as we used to raise tobacco for many years.

I realize that you can still buy a Super C with fast hitch for $700 in this area, but by the time you buy tires, rims, etc...I have so much in it that I can't/won't sell it for less than the investment.

If you check out the tractor photo section, you will see that the way I have dealt with this is that I buy an old tractor...give it what it needs and then TRADE it...I know that makes no sense, but that way I don't feel bad about someone paying and couple of thousand for a 50 year old tractor.

I get me a new toy and they get a good running tractor. I get a chance to tear into new models..I learn a little more, then I move on. To me that is better than any tractor show (of which I attend). Next week I will get #14. Fourteen tractors in one year. I am not rich...not by any means, but I get a chance to experience old Farmalls without the "expense".

To me it is about finding decent, honest people to trade with. Everyone understands these tractors for what they are. With any luck, someday I will be the ninety year old (mentioned on up in this discussion) crying over these marvels of yesteryear.

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John A

11-08-2003 07:01:02




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
49, I know it looks, walks,talks that way. But, these machines have had lives of their own! More so than any other ever made, been the topic of Coffee Shop, Pregame Friday Night, inbetween bids at the Auction Barn,Church on Sunday conversations.
These tractors no matter the color have history. Beyond the regular run of the mill farm stuff.
It is the stories when this Ol' Darlin was used to get to some one stranded in a snow storm or flood or such. Pulling a load it was never ment to handle, and by all rights did it flawlessly.
The time it got harvest done, by helping drag the combines around at the turnrow, Then deadhead to the other end to do it again there ,ect,ect ,ect.
It is here in the Corn,Milo fields where these "Legends" started mostly true. But with some embilishments over the many tellings of it.
So if WE let this love for old Tractors fall to the point of the most perfect model, perfect paint,pristine showroom condition, Then we are no better than the old car shows, only perfect collector models there. It is the Battle scars that tell the real story! The Little boys, myself included, that dreamed of, helped pen, By being at the wheel,to give the firsthand account of the primis for the story.
49, For me it is the untold srories that I would like to know.
My $.02
Later,
John A

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Allan

11-08-2003 06:56:36




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
Cubber!!!

Calm down man.....this will pass.

Ya know you love this stuff. Take a breather, because you'll be back in the heat of things in no time.

And don't sell your stuff....you will one day be sorry if you do....

Just my opinion,

Allan



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Michael Soldan

11-08-2003 06:42:43




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
Cubber..Relax..Take a Pill...I know what you are saying, I used to take a car to car shows all around my driveable area and it got to be the same people , same cars etc...You have to become selective...pick one or two shows where they are featuring I-H and just go to them, offer to bring a tractor to a local parade, or a historical display or a school..look for different venues for your tractors. A fellow about ten miles from me used to just park his tractors in a row on his property along the highway and he would stop what he was doing and chat with anyone who stopped Seems he enjoyed that as much as trailering to shows...anyway you'll get over it Cubber..... .Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Peabody

11-08-2003 06:16:25




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 Re: How do you get out of it!? in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-08-2003 06:03:07  
Yeah, right. You just do that. I am road-tripping to see and probably buy a 52 cub tomorrow, and am planning to have a whale of a time working on it this winter. While you are trashing your tractor collection, you got any spare parts you want to get rid of?



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