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Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. 2

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Brian Schmidt

11-17-2003 19:12:28




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Can someone give me what to tell someone to look for when identifying the difference between the fast hitch class 1 vs. 2? Like some dimension differences etc.

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Brian Schmidt




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ryan

11-18-2003 10:27:31




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 Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. 2 in reply to Brian Schmidt, 11-17-2003 19:12:28  
sc-200 prongs are 21/2 in. tall 300 and up are 3in.



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Hugh MacKay

11-18-2003 01:48:06




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 Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. 2 in reply to Brian Schmidt, 11-17-2003 19:12:28  
Brian: Lets get to the bottom of this, are you talking about fast hitch or 3 point hitch? The answers you are getting are dealing with 3 point hitch. Fast hitches were never identified by class 1, 2 or 3. There was from a hitching point 2 sizes, and that applied to fork size only. The width those forks were apart were same on both. There were 5 sizes of fast hitch as it applied to the tractors a hitch would fit on, those being; single point for Cub, single point for 100, 130 and 140, 2 point for SC, 200, 230 and 240, two point for 300, 350, 340 and 460 and 2 point for 400, 450 and 560. Of those two point hitches there were depth controled hitches and draft controled hitches.

Even on the answers you received, 3 point hitchs are not identified by class but rather category. The answer you have would be right for 3 point hitches had you asked for category. I only entered this discussion as I see a possible bit of confusion between what you asked and answers you recieved. I hope I have helped.

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Brian Schmidt

11-18-2003 10:23:22




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 Re: Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. 2 in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-18-2003 01:48:06  
Hugh,

You are correct. I am after the IH Fast Hitch numbers NOT the three point numbers. I was only aware that there were two differnet ones (size that fit the Super C - 240 and the size that fit the 300 and up). I guess I wasn't considering the one prong anyway.

With all this said, can you give me a simple way to identify the difference in them (ie. the height of the fork in the notch area or thickness of the fork). Is there enough of a difference that one can easily tell the difference by measuring them or is there another way.

Thanks much!!
Brian Schmidt

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Hugh MacKay

11-18-2003 14:57:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. 2 in reply to Brian Schmidt, 11-18-2003 10:23:22  
Brian: We'll forget about the 1 points and not confuse the issue. There are only two sizes of prongs, the small one is used on the Super C, 200 and 230 only. The small one is 2.5 inches high at reciever inlet and prong matches at that point. The large one used on all other 2 point tractors is 3 inches at same point. The 240 and all the larger tractors use the large prong.

When I say there are 3 sizes, that is as it applies on hitch bolting up to tractor The hitch bolts to chassis and there are 3 sizes of chassis. Super C, 200, 230 and 240 have small chassis; 330, 300, 340, 350 and 460 have the medium size chassis and 400, 450 and 560 have large chassis. You can hook small prong implements to the large hitches by using a 1/2 inch filler plate. The large prong implements will not hook to small hitch. I hope this clears it up.

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Brian Schmidt

11-18-2003 20:04:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-18-2003 14:57:49  
Next question. Is this dimension in the stepped down part where the lock goes in or on the full height part near the step on the bottom rail that stops the prong from going in any further?



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Hugh MacKay

11-19-2003 07:41:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 in reply to Brian Schmidt, 11-18-2003 20:04:46  
Brian: The measurement is just ahead of the stop that prevents prong from going in too far. I went to my shop this morning and measured about 8 of these to be sure. I can safely say it is also give or take 1/8" on either size. However for working purposes 2-1/2 for small ones and 3" for the large size. The 3" prongs are just a bit thicker also about 1-1/16" on small and 1-1/8" on large. One thing you must also remember is most of these have close to 50 years of wear on them.

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Farmalldan

11-18-2003 09:53:23




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 Re: Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. 2 in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-18-2003 01:48:06  
Hugh,
Your remarks rang a bell. I have believed that 300/350 and 400/450 Fast Hitches were identical. However, you separate them into two different sizes. Now, this is where the bell rang. I have an IHC 2 point to 3 point adapter. The prong spacing on it is too wide for my 300 Utility. I assumed the Utilities had different prong spacing because of the narrow rear tread. Perhaps, and you can help me here, I am wrong and the 400/450 had wider prong spacing than the 300/350 and what I have is an adapter for the 400/450? Thanks.

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Hugh MacKay

11-18-2003 14:40:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. 2 in reply to Farmalldan, 11-18-2003 09:53:23  
Dan: This isn't the first time I've heard someone say a certain two point attachment was not the right width. My understanding 45 years ago was all two point were same width apart. I know my Farmalls 300 and 560 would interchange, on implements.



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old

11-17-2003 19:35:34




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 Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. 2 in reply to Brian Schmidt, 11-17-2003 19:12:28  
It's the size if the hole in the arms, class one is 7/8" and class 2 is 1-1/8 and class 3 is 1-7/16. Hope this helps



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Slowpoke

11-17-2003 23:23:54




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 Re: Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. 2 in reply to old, 11-17-2003 19:35:34  
Is the 'class' the same as 'catagory' 1, 2 & 3?



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old

11-18-2003 05:56:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Identifying Fast Hitch Class 1 vs. 2 in reply to Slowpoke, 11-17-2003 23:23:54  
Yes it's just another way of saying the same thing but useing other words



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