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paul

11-27-2003 11:58:29

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need to pull a 806 400 miles towing capacity on my toyota tundra is 7200# total weight of trailer and tractor is 10700# think ill make it. wanting to know if anyone has has overloaded the towing capicity on their trucks by this much. paul.

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r190

11-29-2003 13:35:15

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

where did you find that light of 806? or doesn't the trailer weigh anything?

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Handyman

11-28-2003 21:12:29

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

One thing that hasnt been mentioned yet is that if you have an accident while towing this overweight load, YOU WILL BE UNINSURED.your insurance carrier will tell you they dont cover stupidity or poor planning. just ask them

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Hank Berger

11-28-2003 17:40:52

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

I was towing a sprayer behind my F-350 and went around a curve and the dang bumper hitch ripped off and the sprayer went flying off into a church parking lot!!!!! !!!! Boy did I learn my lesson!
Now I use a huchins device on my hitch. Back to your question..... Your Toyata pulling a 806 sounds like a jackknifing train-wreck waiting to happen. You shouldn't try it.

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Joe Paul McFooker

11-28-2003 17:23:17

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

You'll be better off turnin your rig around and pullin the Toyota with the 806. At least you'll get there. It'll push your truck through an intersection and you'll be having T-bone steak for supper.

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Joe Paul McFooker

11-28-2003 17:21:38

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

You'll be better off turnin your rig around and pullin the Toyota with the 806. At least you'll get there. It'll push your truck through an intersection and you'll be having T-bone steak for supper.

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Dale13

11-28-2003 16:21:57

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

If all it weighs is 10,700 then you have either a ultra light 806 or you have a flyweight trailer!! What would it cost to have it hauled,$1.00 or a $1.50 a mile. And for that you would risk life and limb[not to mention a Toyota] and possibly a accident involving others.
HIRE IT DONE.

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Paul Janke

11-28-2003 15:50:48

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

I get the general impression they are hinting you shouldn't try it.

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Big Jim

11-28-2003 08:16:25

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

DON'T DO IT! You stand a pretty good chance of ruining the engine, brakes or something else on your truck and then you wouldn't be saving much money...would you?
Bite the bullett and pay a professional trucker the $1.50 a loaded mile (or whatever he charges) and be done with it.

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John A

11-27-2003 21:03:57

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

Paul, In 92 I pulled a 966 weighted to the hilt, (about 12,000 lbs) from Hollis,OK to 40 mi N. of Austin,TX. Used a 82, 3/4ton, 4x4, 351gas /auto/355. Trailer was a Goosneck brand, 20ft w/ 5ft dovetail W/ 2 dually axles, both rated at 10,000lbs each. Only brakes were the pickup brakes. Never again like this.
Hauled her about 300 mi. This was a recipt for disaster. I did get away with it but wouldn't do it again without trailer brakes. My ol pickup at the time would only handle this load at a max speed of 50 MPH. Also my truck had 8 hole wheels,10 ply tires too.
Paul as others have allready said to you, Accross town, up to 10 miles from the house, with good roads and light traffic maybe , ok. 400 mi. NEVER,NO ,Not in this Life time,not only no but H , NO. Did I by chance indicate that this was not a good idea? Your tundra isn't a heavy enough truck.
Please reconcider useing it.
Later,
John A.

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kjm

11-27-2003 21:02:13

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

Paul,I pull a 20ft trailer behind my Toyota 2wd, yes it is over loaded all the time(11900# by the scales) pulls good but you need a great set of trailer brakes to stop it.For 400mi. I would pay someone to haul it. I wouldn`t pull my D17 that far and it weighs less than your IH. lol kjm

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Grant

11-27-2003 20:37:53

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

Hmmm. Yea i'd say that a tundra + an 806 = big trouble. I pull an farmall 460 (Much smaller than an 806) with my 2001 ford 250. i have no problems going or stopping, but my truck is much bigger and i have a brake package too. Also 400 miles is an awful long journey for a truck thats not meant for such heavy pulling. There are a ton of things that can happen in 400 miles. Across town you might be alright, but thats just too long to go with too tiny a truck.

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Doof

11-29-2003 07:48:30

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Re: Re: towing capacity in reply to Grant, 11-27-2003 20:37:53

In that T-3 movie the tundra held up to some pretty mean sh---Imean stuff.

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Hugh MacKay

11-27-2003 19:08:28

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

Paul: In my early days of farming, I used a bumper hitch trailer with an 18' deck behind my 3/4 Chevy. While this unit worked great for items such as Super A, skid steer loaders, loads of hay, they are not to be fooled with on heavy loads. Yes I have had my truck, trailer and load in excess of 20,000 lbs., but not often and not for many miles.

I later purchased a C-65 Chevy single axle tractor with fifth wheel and air brakes. I had a 35' and a 40' trailers for this unit. Since my farming days I have done a bit of trucking with the real heavy rigs. Super B trains grossing 140,000 lbs. Those rigs got to be the safest thing on the road. With air suspension, do they hug the roadway. I once stopped one of those units on a down grade, 50 mph to a standstill in just under 200 feet. Today I wouldn't drive anything in excess of 10,000 lbs gross unless it has air brakes. Hydraulic and electric brakes just don't cut it with me anymore.

In my opinion there are vehicles and combinations being lisenced to operate on our highways that shouldn't be there.

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Doug in OR

11-28-2003 09:35:54

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Re: Re: towing capacity in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-27-2003 19:08:28

I agree, Hugh. In my opinion, any trailer with a GVWR of 10,000 pounds or greater should require trailer brakes and a proper endorsement on the drivers license, unless you already possess a proper commercial license. There are just too many things that can sneak up and bite you.

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Ron 1456

11-27-2003 19:38:17

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Re: Re: towing capacity in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-27-2003 19:08:28

I agree with 100%

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the tractor vet

11-27-2003 17:52:14

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

And 806 would be all that a heavy 3/4 ton would want on a tri axel let lone behind a Totgoat even if it had the power to pull it ya sure don't have the brakes to woooo it.

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TP from Central PA

11-27-2003 13:01:06

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

I overload mine all the time if I went by the specs on the truck..... ..Mine are older Chevy's and GMC's..... ..And I am only running acouple of miles usually. I personally don't think the Toyota is up to it..... ...

My GMC 1 ton is rated at 10K..... ....Rolled over the scales one day hauling limestone my brother had it up to 19K..... .A bit overloaded!

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nebraska cowman

11-27-2003 12:51:15

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Re: towing capacity in reply to paul, 11-27-2003 11:58:29

says who? an 806 will weigh 10.7 all by itself I'd guess, i'd be hesitant to put it behind a tundra.

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class A cdl

11-27-2003 19:16:56

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Re: Re: towing capacity in reply to nebraska cowman, 11-27-2003 12:51:15

Yer askin fer trouble.

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Brad L

11-27-2003 19:36:54

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Re: Re: Re: towing capacity in reply to class A cdl, 11-27-2003 19:16:56

You might get it moving but your im big trouble if you have to stop fast.

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