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Mike ISW

12-02-2003 17:29:20

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I recieved a new catalog today and in it I found a trip plow rope holder for my H. IH part#352118R1. Anyone know where this is supposed to be attched to the tractor? For $5.00 i figure I can't go wrong. I ain't drilling any holes though. Thanks, Mike.

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john d

12-03-2003 18:46:44

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Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Mike ISW, 12-02-2003 17:29:20

Right rear corner bolt on the seat pan on most IH seats will work. My dad hitched the trip rope to the seat spring one time....only once. He it a rock, and when the plow unhooked, it pulled the spring out and the seat dropped like a rock!

I spent a lot of time on an H with a 2-14" trailing plow as a kid. When the old rope that was on it broke one day, I replaced it with a long v-belt that had been thrown in the trash. I cut it, fastened one end to the trip lever, and threaded the other end through the ring on the end of the furrow wheel lever. By folding the belt back and fastening it to make a loop on the end, it was always a short reach and I had the loop to grab instead of just a straight line. Didn't have to re-hook it every time I lost the plow, either!

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Mike ISW

12-03-2003 02:18:15

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Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Mike ISW, 12-02-2003 17:29:20

Thanks guys!

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Vern Mn

12-03-2003 00:33:00

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Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Mike ISW, 12-02-2003 17:29:20

I remember my dad buying a new John Deere plow in 1950, and it came with the trip rope bracket to bolt to the seat. (A green piece bolted to the seat pan on a Farmall H.) I also remember the snap ring that was sold for the rope in hardware store and machinery dealers. Most of all remeber that the ropes all had the light soft wires tied into the knot at the ends of ropes.

Used to also be several different types of hitch releases too.

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gene b

12-03-2003 00:14:45

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Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Mike ISW, 12-02-2003 17:29:20

either one of the rear bolts that hold the seat pan. I always liked the right rear pos as it was the easiest to grab the rope and make the turn. Used 1/2 in hemp rope and a piece of wire in the tractor seat so when the plow un-hooked the wire would let the plow un-hook.

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Jim

12-02-2003 19:28:54

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Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Mike ISW, 12-02-2003 17:29:20

Hey There I must be older then I though,you put a steel ring on the end of the trip rope and on the tractor bracket you use a hair pin type clip that the ring slides in to and a little pull well snap it loose.Hit a stone, rehook the plow and snap the ring in to the clip and go again.

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ron in MN

12-02-2003 19:11:41

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Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Mike ISW, 12-02-2003 17:29:20

Hey guys, handle that rope like the "real men" handled them by having the rope tied to the furrow wheel lever and just reach back to get it as you reach the end of the field. Then you don't need any fancy rope holder! Our land was quite rocky and plows unhitched regularly, but the rope was always there on the furrow lever.

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Alvin NE WI

12-02-2003 18:53:22

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Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Mike ISW, 12-02-2003 17:29:20

When My Grandpa got his first tractor back about 1920 or so, he always had to get off tractor to get the rope, he solved that problem, he tied it around his waist, lated hit a stone, pulled him off tractor, than he had to untie knot, run like he!! to catch tractor before it went across the stone fence. Leson learned quick. Oh it was a Titan

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Alvin NE WI

12-02-2003 18:51:51

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John

12-02-2003 18:36:37

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Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Mike ISW, 12-02-2003 17:29:20

I had the origional one on my H. I always thought that it was something my father made, almost like a sicle bar mower shim but a little thicker. Mine had a slight crack so I was going to weld it up but I found a bracket in my shop that had one end that was the exact same width, had a hole (for the rpoe) already drilled and one end curved the exact way as the origional. I just had to cut it to length, drill the hole for the seat bolt and file the end so it will be a little rounded. I usually wouldn't make things but this was really easy. It was a little thicker too which I think would help. Then for the rope release, I found a picture of one for a JD # 52 plow. I made one too and put it in the rope hole. Tie the rope to a steel ring (I got it at Home Depot) maybe 1 1/2" in diameter. Then I took a (I think it is called) a linch pin and bent it so the ring can be slid into it. If there is enough tension, the ring just comes out. It is a little hard to explain, but if someone has a JD # 51 or #52 plow manual, it is on P.12.

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Nebraska Cowman

12-02-2003 17:57:15

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Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Mike ISW, 12-02-2003 17:29:20

I would think it would have to be around the back of the seat where you could reach the rope. On the old fords and fergies we used to tie to the fender. One word of warning I give to guys; don't tie the rope to the seat spring because if the plow unhooks it will pull the spring out and you will go on the ground.

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12-02-2003 19:34:33

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Re: Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-02-2003 17:57:15

Dad made the mistake of tying it to the lightbar on my uncles M once. turned the bar right around, and shucked off the light to boot! Smacked dad up pretty good in the process... I just take a piece of #9 wire and bend it in a loop....if the plow trips it pulls the rope right out.

Mike

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RJ-Az

12-02-2003 19:03:47

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Re: Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-02-2003 17:57:15

Hoo boy been there done that. I was about 15 and plowing for a neighbor with his JD G and 4 bottom rope trip plow when I hit a rock and the breakawy hitch tripped. He was an old cowboy and used an old nylon lariat rope and tied hard and fast. Tore that seat up bad!!

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rustyfarmall

12-02-2003 18:07:50

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Re: Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-02-2003 17:57:15

The little genius plow manual that I have shows a length of wire attached to the rope, the wire has a hook bent on the end away from the rope, and the wire is hooked to the rope attachment on the tractor. The wire needs to be made of a relatively soft substance so that if the plow trips, the wire will simply unhook itself from the tractor, and no damage will be done. Never tie the rope directly to the tractor.

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rustyfarmall

12-02-2003 17:54:46

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Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Mike ISW, 12-02-2003 17:29:20

You must have just recieved a new O.E.M. catalog, I was considering making one until I saw those, now I think I will just buy one. It is mounted to the right rear stud that holds the pan seat to the seat frame, just remove the nut, put the rope holder on, and reinstall the nut. Is this clear as mud?

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Paul in Mich

12-02-2003 18:43:46

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Re: Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to rustyfarmall, 12-02-2003 17:54:46

The guy I bought my "H" from must have been a southpaw since he had the rope bracket on the left side of the seat rather than the right side. I suppose it really doesnt matter except to say that the reason they were put there was to keep people from tying the rope to places it shouldnt, like the spring, umbrella bracket, rear light, or the seat itself, and other less than desirable places. If you notice, the bracket is made of thin enough steel so that if the plow becomes unhooked, or the rope becomes taut for any other reason, that it will tear thru the bracket long before it will damage the seat or any other thing. By the way, I recieved my O.E.M.catalog yesterday, and am impressed with the new items they have added. I have bought several items from them before, and find them to be dedicated to finding or making parts to original specs.

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Hugh MacKay

12-03-2003 03:02:31

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Re: Re: Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Paul in Mich, 12-02-2003 18:43:46

Paul: My dad always had a wire hook on the loader frame of the H. He liked the rope going along side, and always used soft enough wire for the hook that would just straighten out. He once hitched the plow just to plow his garden, hook was missing so he just threw the rope over his right knee. He thought he knew the garden soil well enough plow wouldn't trip. It did and the wip lash effect caused knot and loop on end of rope to hit him in the groin area. Needless to say the hook on loader frame became a more perminant fixture.

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Paul in Mich

12-03-2003 05:27:10

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Trip Plow Rope Holder in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-03-2003 03:02:31

Ouch..... .bass to tenor in one split second, eh?

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