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Do you really need a govenor??????

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Chris C

12-03-2003 20:41:31




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I understand the concept of having a govenor...but is it really necessary to have one. Couldn't the govenor be pushed wide open or even removed and control the enigine directly by the carb. I mean a majority of gasoline engines do not have govenors you simply pour the coal to her when you need it. It seems that the govenor only enables you to leave your hand off the throttle. I can remember operating one of our farmall M's on the farm and it was direct control. Anyway can you do it?????

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gauger

12-05-2003 05:36:27




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 Re: Do you really need a govenor?????? in reply to Chris C, 12-03-2003 20:41:31  
Actually, virtually all gas engines have some type of governor. Most all of the vertical shaft engines use an air vane, the horizontal shaft engines use flyweight types.



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Bill B

12-04-2003 13:32:08




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 Re: Do you really need a govenor?????? in reply to Chris C, 12-03-2003 20:41:31  
I had an F12 with a jeep engine in it. It had no governor. It was a real pain to operate. A foot feed would have made it easier, but the governor is the way to do it. I bought several belt driven governors, but before I could install one, I sold the tractor. I still have the governors.



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John_N

12-04-2003 09:17:08




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 Re: Do you really need a govenor?????? in reply to Chris C, 12-03-2003 20:41:31  
My father told me of a man who put a grindstone wheel on a buzz saw arbor. The tractor (Ferguson?) had no governor; the stone exploded, killing the guy.



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big fred

12-04-2003 08:07:31




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 Re: Do you really need a govenor?????? in reply to Chris C, 12-03-2003 20:41:31  
Not only does it work, I've done it myself. When the governor spring broke on my Farmall B, I rigged a way to control the throttle directly, ran it that way all the way back to the shop, where I fixed the governor, because let's face it, a tractor with a busted governor isn't very easy to operate and is pretty useless.



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Hugh MacKay

12-04-2003 07:52:17




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 Re: Do you really need a govenor?????? in reply to Chris C, 12-03-2003 20:41:31  
Chris: As others have stated there are pitfalls. My concern is what good would that tractor be for anything other than running up and down the road. Surely your car or pickup would be more economical for this use. Some of you guys must be hanging out in LALA land.



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Bob M

12-04-2003 05:50:25




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 Re: Do you really need a govenor?????? in reply to Chris C, 12-03-2003 20:41:31  
I wouldn't recommend it!! I vividly recall an incident involving an Oliver 1750 and an uncle many years ago. It had been snowing and he had several parking lot plowing contracts to fulfill. The 1750's governor had malfunctioned so he bypassed the governor and rigged the throttle handle to work the carb throttle shaft directly. The experiment lasted only a few seconds. It ended when the engine over-reved and bunch of busted engine parts exited via a hole the size of a grapefruit punched thru the side of the block.

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Ray in Pa.

12-03-2003 21:46:33




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 Re: Do you really need a govenor?????? in reply to Chris C, 12-03-2003 20:41:31  
The govenor it timed to operate instantly and more precisely than you could do it by hand. The govenor also works continously and does give a power advantage by using the right amount of applied carb. throttle plate movement at the right time over that of no govenor. The way the govenor works on say a tractor like my Farmall 300, is that the higher you put the throttle setting, the more the govenor kicks in for opening the throttle plate at the right time. Applying throttle by hand with out a govenor will help a little sometimes, but not as effectively as what a govenor could do it.

Thanks, Ray in Pa.

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