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Mike

12-04-2003 07:39:32




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What is the best kind of engine heater? I have a 460 utility. It has a inline type that connects with hoses, but last winter it shorted out, so I assume it sprang a leak and is shot. I used my magnet heater on the oil pan until Spring came.

I am looking at new and don't know what wattage to get for the inline models. 800, 1500 or 2000 watts. Any other ideas or heating devices?

I don't want to pop a core plug and put in a core heater.

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Catskill Pete

12-04-2003 10:50:43




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 Re: Engine heater in reply to Mike, 12-04-2003 07:39:32  
Myself I like the inline heaters. The thermo-siphon action heats much more quickly,[along with the higher wattage of course.] Here in central NY even on the coldest day they will heat most tractors up in an hour so you don't have to leave it plugged in overnight. However I would not go above 1500 watts on new heater. Higher wattage requires a special cicuit, either a heavier breaker 20+ amps or 220v. Limit it to 1500 watts and you can plug it into most any houshold/shop cicuit. Trust me you won't always have the tractor where you planned on parking it when you need to heat it!

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Bob

12-04-2003 08:52:37




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 Re: Engine heater in reply to Mike, 12-04-2003 07:39:32  
I consider block heaters the best, if you can get one for your appliaction.

As far as wattage, how are you going to use the heater... what is your coldest temp? Will the tractor be inside out of the wind, or shedded? Do you want to leave the tractor plugged in overnight, or do you want a high wattage heater that can warm a cold engine up in an hour or so in the coldest weather?

If you are going to leave the unit plugged in overnight, and don't have 20 below zero temps, a 600 watt heater will be more than adequate. Other wise, increase wattage accordingly.

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Van

12-04-2003 12:25:42




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 Re: Re: Engine heater in reply to Bob, 12-04-2003 08:52:37  
The wind don't matter, tractors don't feel wind chill, only animals and people do.



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Bob

12-04-2003 20:34:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Engine heater in reply to Van, 12-04-2003 12:25:42  
Russ,

You $%^# right, wind does matter. I'm in northern North Dakota, less than 20 miles from the Canadian border, and I speak from experience.

Yes, I am familiar with wind chill on human flesh, and realize a tractor does not have human flesh. The fact remains you can get by with a small block heater on an engine out of the wind, but if you have a 35 MPH wind at 30 below zero, a given sized block heater is a lot less effective out in the wind than it is in a shed, at the same ambient temperature. How cold does it get where you live, Russ?

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Russ

12-05-2003 06:07:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine heater in reply to Bob, 12-04-2003 20:34:48  
-30F



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Van

12-05-2003 04:50:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine heater in reply to Bob, 12-04-2003 20:34:48  
Spent the last 8 years in Grand Forks ND myself, glad to be back down south, and I do agree that insulating a heater helps. Yes the wind can remove some of the heat, but -20 ambient with a -40 wind chill still equals the machine temp at -20, that was my point.



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Russ

12-04-2003 16:50:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Engine heater in reply to Van, 12-04-2003 12:25:42  
If the wind carries the heat away faster than your heater puts it out, it does matter. We used to cover them with a heavy blanket or tarp in cold weather.



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Mike

12-04-2003 10:23:01




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 Re: Re: Engine heater in reply to Bob, 12-04-2003 08:52:37  
Good Questions, I live in Iowa where the temps do go below zero. The tractor sits most of the time out in the weather and wind, seldom gets started in the winter.

I just leave it plugged in all winter to keep it easier to start when the snow flies.



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ken

12-04-2003 17:53:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Engine heater in reply to Mike, 12-04-2003 10:23:01  
i live in iowa also and i just use a block heater ,but mine is in a shed and usually just a couple hours and she is ready to go i got rid of the tank heater because of 2 reasons 1 the hoses were mush and 2 i just didn't like that big ugly thing hanging there in my way.i must add though that they do heat quicker then the block heaters but with my block heater i can take the cord off and you don't even know it's there.

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