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H or M McCormick Loader

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44H

12-15-2003 10:12:47




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Hi,

I have what I think is a McCormick 30 or 31 loader. I kinda inherited this with a Farmall H. Not sure how to tell the difference between the 30 & 31.

It is complete with cylinders, except for it looks like it needs brackets for the frame of the tractor for the loader to slide into, kinda like a quick detachable.

My question is: Are these worth anything?

If not, I was thinking of taking all that mess of rods & linkages off and using the side rails and making some brackets to use a cylinder to lower them and take the bucket off (heavy) make a blade for the front for a snowplow. Wouldn't need to lift as high & would make it quite a bit lighter.

But, don't want to part this out if it is worth anything.

Any ideas or comments?

Thanks, this is a great group. I check it daily.

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Hugh MacKay

12-15-2003 13:59:48




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 Re: H or M McCormick Loader in reply to 44H, 12-15-2003 10:12:47  
44H: Those were a great old loader in their day. My dad bought one new with his H in 1951. Not sure but I think his was a 31. They will lift more than the loaders that followed them. Problem with them because of where lift arms are hinged, when loader is up full height, they have very limited reach over a truck or other high vehicle. They were fine on manure spreaders where loader was up little more than half way. The other thing they tend to do is spill material over back of bucket unto tractor hood, again due to the hinge point. I know all loaders will do this some but these were very bad.

My dad had the factory angle snow blade with his. It was very hard on the loader. Broke those telescoping pipes to front of tractor a lot. Also broke the cross member between loader arms just in front of front wheels. In fact angle plowing with that blade ruined the loader. By the time it was 5 years old it hung about 5" low on one side. A fabricator tried on numerous ocasions to take that sag out of loader. It never held very long.

I do remember the first years my dad had that loader on the H. Having the only loader on our road neighbors came with tractors and spreaders and they would do the whole community. I have seen dad with 6 spreaders hauling from him. Usually one was broke most of the time so 5 may be a better call. Two of those spreaders were 150 bu behind M's and the rest would much smaller spreaders behind 20 to 30 hp tractors. They created quite a stink, they had a lot of fun and spread a lot of manure.

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rustyfarmall

12-15-2003 14:12:12




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 Re: Re: H or M McCormick Loader in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-15-2003 13:59:48  
Hugh, my dad had one of those factory angle blades also, but found out if the snow was very heavy, it would push the tractor sideways, instead of the other way around.



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Hugh MacKay

12-15-2003 17:44:41




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 Re: Re: Re: H or M McCormick Loader in reply to rustyfarmall, 12-15-2003 14:12:12  
Rusty: That one has always amazed me, an H with a narrow front would push sideways so easily. We briefly had that loader on the Farmall 300, and that seemed to put the finishing touches on the old loader, but the 300 pushed sideways as easily as the H did. He bought a new (I think) 33A loader with hydraulic bucket. Nice loader but it would lift in the manure pile like the old 31. He never used the blade on that loader directly. What he did was cut the old loader down and made a set of push arms went directly bact to pin holes for lift cylinders of the 33A loader, shifted the double action lift cylinders to the top hole the loader arms normally hooked to and hooked the rams to the blade push bars about oposite front wheels. It was just about as fast to change from loader to blade, and saved the loader a lot.

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rustyfarmall

12-15-2003 12:18:42




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 Re: H or M McCormick Loader in reply to 44H, 12-15-2003 10:12:47  
There is nothing quick-tach about these loaders, they are, however, very useful. If you remove the bucket, you can then mount a blade, and have one of the best snow pushing rigs around, and when you start to run out of places to push the snow to, you can just pile it higher. Don't attempt to make something else out of this loader, it will be much more useful just the way it is. By the way, the loader listed on e-bay is a model 30, if yours looks a bit different, it is a 31. Pay special attention to the cross brace in front of the steering wheel of the tractor.

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44H

12-15-2003 12:51:36




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 Re: Re: H or M McCormick Loader in reply to rustyfarmall, 12-15-2003 12:18:42  
It looks like the loader is several inches wider then the tractor frame. The flat plates where I thought should mount to the frame are flat with square stock on the inside (tractor side) that looks like it should slide into something. I am sure I am missing something to mount it.

The reasoning about taking it apart was weight, as a neighbor said he had one of these years ago and could not hardly turn it to steer. The bucket has forks with the bucket over them. It is very heavy. 2 people can hardly lift the bucket itself.

Might be better to build a front plow from scratch rather then make one out of this loader.

Thanks

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Nebraska Cowman

12-15-2003 16:05:36




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 Re: Re: Re: H or M McCormick Loader in reply to 44H, 12-15-2003 12:51:36  
since earl let the cat out of the bag, the #30 on ebay is on an H and there are some spacer brackets with it that you don't use on an M. I know cuz I've got a friend with one on an M.



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rustyfarmall

12-15-2003 14:16:52




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 Re: Re: Re: H or M McCormick Loader in reply to 44H, 12-15-2003 12:51:36  
They are not at all hard to steer with just a blade mounted, with the bucket full of wet heavy manure, it is a different story.



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Nebraska Cowman

12-15-2003 11:04:33




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 Re: H or M McCormick Loader in reply to 44H, 12-15-2003 10:12:47  
there is one on ebay right now. wonder what it will bring?



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earlschieb

12-15-2003 14:12:15




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 Re: Re: H or M McCormick Loader in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-15-2003 11:04:33  
Well it must worth at least $100.00, since it is your loader, keep us informed on what it brings!



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