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Alan

12-19-2003 10:56:53

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I know this is off Topic but some might be interested. The christmas present that I bought for my father came today. He has always farmed with red tracors and trucks (M, H, F-20, 1956 S-120 4x4) and has always wanted an M1 Garand Rifle. Well, after two monthes of searching I was able to find a M1 rifle produced by the International Harvestor company.

A little bit of the history of the M1 as I understand it. The M1 Garand was the main service rifle carried by US combat troops in WWII and the Korean Conflict and is still used in a limited role today. It was a semi-automatic rifle that was usually chambered for 30-06. International received a contract to build these rifles in the early 1950's because our gorvernment was concerned that in the event of a nuclear attack on the eastern seaboard all the existing armories that where currently producing the M1 would be wiped out. IH, with plants located in Indiana, received a contract to produce the M1. Because of IH's limited experience in gun manufacturing some components, such as the barrel, were produced by outside manufaturers but the the majority of the parts are IH produced. It does cary IHC stamps on some of the parts and the receiver is marked INTERNATIONAL HARVESTOR. Out or the roughly 5.5 million M1s produced IH eventually produced about half a million. That may sound like alot, but I have found from experience that it can be hard to locate one in good condition.

If any one has anything to add to this I would be interested to hear from you.

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Alan

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farmerbill

12-20-2003 07:07:58

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Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Alan, 12-19-2003 10:56:53

Actualy they were put to making M-1's and 1911 model 45 pistols because they were a company with the ability to do it. Most companys had the ability to produce equipment for the war effort but harvester had factories and people with the knowledge to make guns because of their diverse business. The refrigeration division was able to make the switch with ease.

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Ted

12-20-2003 06:38:56

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Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Alan, 12-19-2003 10:56:53

Alan, when you originally ordered the M1 did you know it was made by IH? Did you have a choice? Could you share with us where you bought it.
Thank You.

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Alan

12-22-2003 09:51:30

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Re: Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Ted, 12-20-2003 06:38:56

Ted,

Yes, I knew it was IH when I bought it. The four original makers of the garand where Sprinfield Armory, Winchester, IH, and Harrington Richardson (sp?). When I was searching classifieds, auctions sites, etc. I usually typed in international harvestor garand and it would come up with only the guns I was interested in. I bought mine over gunbroker.com which is an auction site very similar to ebay but deals strictly in guns. I have included that site and a couple others worth looking at if your interested in learning more.

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Let me know if you need more info,

Alan

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justin

12-19-2003 13:54:04

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Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Alan, 12-19-2003 10:56:53

I have one also, but mine has been modified into a National Match Rifle by one of the companies that offers this service, so everything is IHC except the BBL (which should be LMR), the front & rear sights, and it now has a glass bedded stock. I plan on doing an "in-depth" article on the IHC garand in the near future. Here is a pic of mine.

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Peabody

12-19-2003 13:21:28

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Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Alan, 12-19-2003 10:56:53

I've got an M-1 Carbine made by National Postage Meter. It was my great-uncle's.

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Jimmy King

12-19-2003 12:11:28

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Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Alan, 12-19-2003 10:56:53

I didn't know that IH made any of the M1's until a while back when I saw one on this site. I was in the Mo. Army National Guard 1959-1965 we still had the M1 Garand, 30cal, clip fed, gas operated, Sholder Weapon. there may have been a little more but I don't remember it all. It will cause your thumb nail to come off when the bolt slamed shut on it, I was lucky on that part saw a few guys that weren't.

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Zak

12-19-2003 19:15:58

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Re: Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Jimmy King , 12-19-2003 12:11:28

Actually Jimmy, what you had was the M-14 service rifle. Basically the same action as the M-1 Garand but modified to accept a magazine rather than the Garands's C-clip which held 8 rounds. The M-14 also had a flash suppressor, which the M-1 did not. Last, but not least, the M-14 was chambered for the .308 NATO round as opposed to the M-1 being chambered in 30-06. Almost identical cartridges, but .308 is a hair shorter than 30-06. I have an original Springfield Armory M-1 Garand that's still got armorer's chalk marks on it as well as the factory ink stamps. Shoots like a dream but I only take her out once a year as it was my 21'st birthday present from my father. I want this one to last! You'll see all sorts of names on these beautiful rifles...Rockola (made jukeboxes), Remington (made typewriters in the factory that was converted during WWII), IHC, a few others but I forget at the moment.

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Jimmy King

12-20-2003 04:39:01

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Re: Re: Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Zak, 12-19-2003 19:15:58

No Zak what we had were M1 Garand's the M14 came out while I was in the Guard, but since we were an Air Craft Maint. Unit we didn't get them. They had an eight round clip went in from the top I am oney 62 and I do remember what we had.

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Zak

12-20-2003 14:38:50

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Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Jimmy King, 12-20-2003 04:39:01

Sorry Jimmy, I mistook your statement that your M-1's used magazines when you meant the C-clip. Indeed you had the M-1 then and not the 14. My apologies. Zak

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Jimmy King

12-20-2003 15:09:47

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Zak, 12-20-2003 14:38:50

Apologie accepted, We had to know all that crap I listed when we had Inspections plus the serial number, I don't remember it but it had two 7's in it [77] service no, was NG27548340.

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dar

12-19-2003 11:51:23

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Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Alan, 12-19-2003 10:56:53

Good to hear that IH M1's are still available. I have seen two of them at Red Power Round-Up's. I have always wanted one but figured that all of the collectors had them tied up and it would be virtually impossible to find one for sale. Could you give a ballpark figure as to what one may cost? I like M1's and to have one produced by IH would be great. Thanks for sharing your find with us.

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Alan

12-19-2003 20:16:15

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Re: Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to dar, 12-19-2003 11:51:23

I found M1's any where from $500 for a very poor one all the way to 1500$ or more for all original ones ones. From what I found if you shop around and are patient you should be able to find a nice one for $1000-1200. You might be able to find a good one for even less than that if you are willing to take an import. By import I mean one that was shipped overseas for use by other governments and then brought back into the US at a later date. This hurts the collectors value of the gun but as long as no parts where replaced while overseas the only physical differance between a so called import and a non-import is the small import stamp that the US Government requires be placed on the gun when it is brought back into the country. I bought this one on gunbroker.com. If anyone was interested in one that would be one place to start looking.

Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll try to help you out.

Alan

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Steve - IN

12-19-2003 11:12:08

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Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Alan, 12-19-2003 10:56:53

Alan,
If you can find the marking LM on the barrel, the M1 you have was generally one of the most accurate M1's ever made. They weren't made at the IH plant down in Indy, but only came out of the Evansville IN plant from around '53 to '56.

If you want some of the odd background, read up about Garand himself. I think he once built an ice skating rink in his living room -- a bit eccentric.

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Kelly C

12-19-2003 11:06:39

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Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Alan, 12-19-2003 10:56:53

I dont see that as being off topic at all.
Wouldnt mind finding a IH Garand my self.
Thanks for the Info. I did not know that about IH and the M1.

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sod

12-20-2003 01:41:50

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Re: Re: OT: IH Rifle in reply to Kelly C, 12-19-2003 11:06:39

The civilian Marksmanship Program sells them. It's a government entity. My buddy got an IH M1. I got a Springfield.
Later, he went on a tour of Dillon Reloading in AZ and some of the guys that work there used to work in the armory at the DCM (same place, old name)
They said that if someone used there Marine Corps ID they would look around for a nice rifle. IH , Rockola, etc.
good luck
sod

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