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What is Swinging Drawbar used for?

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Jason - Senoia,

12-27-2003 18:29:34




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Although I have seen them for years and have them on a couple of tractors, I don't know what type of implements utilize a swinging drawbar. What are they used with?




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hagan

12-28-2003 19:57:45




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 Re: What is Swinging Drawbar used for? in reply to Jason - Senoia, GA, 12-27-2003 18:29:34  
when we pull our 3 14 ft IHC 150hoe drills in 1 set it is 42 ft wide and we turn around with it out of the ground but drill our outsides of the fields with 3 rounds around and that gives back and forth turning room. Now if you want straight drill rows with the 12 inch drill turn your swinging drawbar loose. A old fellow told me one time you can not drill a straight row with a straight hitch. He was right. We do it all the time with our 1586 when we do any seeding or pulling our 60 ft rod weeder.

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okla/kans Bill

12-28-2003 11:35:34




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 Re: What is Swinging Drawbar used for? in reply to Jason - Senoia, GA, 12-27-2003 18:29:34  

i, at 56, decided I was going to plow in a spiral ending up near the center of the field. To do this, I swung the drawbar to the right a hole which made the plow onkly cut around 20 to 22in thereabouts, give or take, on the straightaway, but would allow me to plow around the corner curves without dropping the front wheels in the furrow. Did it take more time, maybe, was it easier than comeing out at the end of the furrow, turning around and going back in, tripping out and tripping in, with rope trip? U BET. Did I use more gas , questionable, as I wasnt making the loop in and out at the ends of each furrow. I also let the drawbar swing free, but put a pin in the last holes on each end, when im discing. This makes it so much easiert to turn around using a 16ft single disc in Okla sand and an F-30. Aftr I have planted corn and it is up around 2ft high, I set the drawbar to one side enough to have the planter set in the middle of the rows it origionally planted, and put in booster fertilizer. When picking corn, I offset the drawbar to the extream right so that I dont run over the snout on the left hand side of the picker. I also do that with the bailer, as it is an engine bailer and I can be a slight distance away from the windrow and not run over it, but, oh how it shakes the 30 when I have to stop for any reason. I think I also offset it when I rake with the 30 and a steel wheeled JD rake, but im not sure.

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Bill Smith

12-28-2003 10:51:23




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 Re: What is Swinging Drawbar used for? in reply to Jason - Senoia, GA, 12-27-2003 18:29:34  
Alot of good comments already. First off, when something is hooked up to the swinger, you can adjust where it is going to follow the tractor by simply putting pins in the regular draw bar on both sides of the swinger. This will allow you to make adjustments without completely unhooking and hooking implement back up. Example, adjusting a plow so the rear tire of tractor will travel in the furrow wich is an adjustment that needs to be made after plow is hooked up (don't have to unhook plow to make adjustment). Your not going to use the swinger as being free to swing in most cases. Another big deal with the swinger is, it is easier to hook stuff up to it than to the regular draw bar. You back up to something at the right distance and you can slide the swinger into what you are hooking up (alot easier to hook up especially if by yourself). When hooking something up to the regular draw bar, you not only have to have the distance right when backing so your holes will line up, but you have to have the tongue of what your hooking up set at the right height so you back the draw bar into it. Almost a two man job hooking up some stuff. Alot easier to back up, get off, lift the tongue yourself and just slide the swinger over to put the pin in.

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Farmallkid

12-28-2003 05:36:45




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 Re: What is Swinging Drawbar used for? in reply to Jason - Senoia, GA, 12-27-2003 18:29:34  
IT helps for plowing with the bigger farmalls like the M, since they are wide.



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Hugh MacKay

12-28-2003 04:20:17




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 Re: What is Swinging Drawbar used for? in reply to Jason - Senoia, GA, 12-27-2003 18:29:34  
Jason: I personally wouldn't be without a swinging drawbar. CNKS and Jim have mentioned a lot of the benefits. They are just plain more convenient. The flat plate used for PTO work without swinging drawbar, just will not stay tight. Swinging drawbar will carry more weight, than the plate.



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Jimmy King

12-27-2003 19:13:02




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 Re: What is Swinging Drawbar used for? in reply to Jason - Senoia, GA, 12-27-2003 18:29:34  
The main reason for a swinging draw bar is so when you turn short the tongue won't bind on a flat drawbar and bend it aslo it makes it easier the hook up sometimes and there are times you need to offset a peice of machinery with the center of the tractor most machines with pto are set up with the right distence from PTO end to drawbar hole on swinging drawbars. We usually kept ours pined in the middle with just a hitch pin on each side. letting it swing free was very annoying beside being hard on tractor and machine.

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CNKS

12-27-2003 18:38:40




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 Re: What is Swinging Drawbar used for? in reply to Jason - Senoia, GA, 12-27-2003 18:29:34  
It is used with trailing implements such as a tandem disk that doesn't have hydraulics, thus you can't raise it when you turn. Swinging drawbar slides on the main drawbar when you turn and makes turning easier.



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CNKS has it right

12-28-2003 14:53:04




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 Re: Re: What is Swinging Drawbar used for? in reply to CNKS, 12-27-2003 18:38:40  
All the others with the plows etc. are just easyer ways of moving the hitch. But the swinging drawbar was for turning with implement that didn't raise out of the ground.



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Hugh MacKay

12-28-2003 19:22:13




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 Re: Re: Re: What is Swinging Drawbar used for? in reply to CNKS has it right, 12-28-2003 14:53:04  
Swinging drawbar was in fact for all those things. Here in Canada we had a lever with about a dozen settings for moving the swinging drawbar during plowing. It was called a side hill lever. On my 560D I used a hydraulic cylinder for this purpose. I never saw a Farmall without a swinging drawbar, we used them for everything, made life so much easier.



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IowaChuck

12-28-2003 11:08:46




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 Re: Re: What is Swinging Drawbar used for? in reply to CNKS, 12-27-2003 18:38:40  
The swinging drawbar is better for turning when you are using pull type implements. The swinging drawbar is almost a necessity for pulling a row crop cultivator when a listers is used for planting. The lister is a planter that digs a furrow for the planting of the seed and the dirt that is removed is piled in-between the seed furrows. This was typically 38 or 40 inch row spacing. When you pulled the cultivator (go devil) your tractor wheels would slide from side to side of this mound of soil and the cultivator could remain centered because the drawbar would swing. The planter replaced the lister in Iowa about thirty to forty years ago.

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