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P B BLASTER?

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Farmallkid

12-29-2003 10:53:22




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We have a Super W-6 that is firm, I have heard some guys on here that have used P B and was wondering how much you put in, If you dilute it or pour it in straight, and how long does it take to make the engine loose.We have diesel in it know but it hasn't loosened up at all. Thanks for any ideas.

Mitch




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DENNIS in NC

12-29-2003 21:01:13




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 Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to Farmallkid, 12-29-2003 10:53:22  
i have a 57. 230 filled with pb now for about 2wks i add a can each wk if it will go . let you know if anything moves



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49 Cubber!

12-29-2003 12:16:27




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 Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to Farmallkid, 12-29-2003 10:53:22  
I like Kroil better than PB.But I have broke engines loose with PB before in about a month or so.



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42FarmallH

12-29-2003 11:55:20




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 Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to Farmallkid, 12-29-2003 10:53:22  
Bought a W-9 a couple years ago with stuck engine - been sitting on the hill for 15 years or more. Had a can over the exhaust though - so no water inside. Took out the spark plugs and used a full can of PB Blaster down the cylinders as equally as I could gauge. Tractor sat for another 2 weeks before we got time to haul it home. Got it off the trailer and it came loose, fired it up and ran good.

Unfortunately, the head was full of rust in the water passages - overheated around the valves and cracked the head. Took 4 months to find another head...

Anyways, PB Blaster is my friend, works good on stuck engines so far, rusty bolts, etc.

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The Red

12-29-2003 11:54:55




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 Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to Farmallkid, 12-29-2003 10:53:22  
If you haven't already, pull the head and clean out that diesel and use the PB Blaster. Make sure you spray in enough that the PB is level with the top of the each piston. When I pulled the pistons and sleeves out of Old Rusty H, I then pounded the pistons out of each sleeve. That PB Blaster had successfully worked it's way through the 3 compression rings in about a 2 month period. During that 2 months I had also sprayed around the outer edge of each sleeve. That PB worked down between the sleeve and cylinder wall fairly easily.

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old

12-29-2003 11:21:14




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 Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to Farmallkid, 12-29-2003 10:53:22  
I use turpentine and so far it has worked on every engine I've put it in, and haveing the diesel in it would be a plus as far as useing turpentine. I take engines that I will be working on in the future and fill them with oil and then when I start working on the I fill them with the turpentine and have gotten every one loose that way. But it has to be the old type turpentine not paint thinner and turpentine is getting hard to find now days

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Nebraska Cowman

12-29-2003 11:04:38




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 Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to Farmallkid, 12-29-2003 10:53:22  
my favorite is a foot long piece of 7/8 hex shaft that I call my "magic wand" Used with 4 pound hammer on the tough ones.



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TimV

12-29-2003 11:01:11




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 Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to Farmallkid, 12-29-2003 10:53:22  
Farmallkid: If you use PB Blaster, I'd recommend using it straight. Time is your friend here--put it in, cover the plug holes to prevent evaporation, and let it set, for weeks if necessary. I've freed up engines this way before, but I've got one now that's giving me fits! It's a Maytag model 92, and I've tried PB Blaster, diesel, transmission fluid, pressurized grease, pressurized air (mainly to get rid of the grease!) heat, cold, and copious foul language, so far to no avail. I'm going to try Coca-Cola next--it can't do any worse than the rest have done. A buddy has suggested black powder, but I'm going to give that one a pass..... .

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Tracy B

12-29-2003 16:42:36




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 Re: Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to TimV, 12-29-2003 11:01:11  
Since the Maytag is small, why not try putting it in a big pot of water and bring it to a boil for a while. If you can remove the firing components and carb, what do you have to lose. A few cycles of this with the expanding and contracting might help it turn loose.



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TimV

12-29-2003 18:45:40




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 Re: Re: Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to Tracy B, 12-29-2003 16:42:36  
Tracy: I didn't want to pull the con-rod off unless I had to, but tonight I finally bit the bullet and did it. Came off with no major hassles (probably for the first time since it was new) and with some judicious tapping and applications of air got the piston moving. Came right out after that, along with a good supply of the grease I'd pumped in. My neighbor (who was helping) said "Now I see why you wanted me to hold the piston while you ran the air hose"! as he wiped about a quart off his glasses.... Thanks for all the suggestions--now I gotta git the little beastie back together and see what else might be ailing it! Anyone got a fuel-line check valve for a Maytag lying around??

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James Williams

12-29-2003 15:22:08




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 Re: Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to TimV, 12-29-2003 11:01:11  
Some one a few months ago said he used Turpentime and it worked in a couple days,but you have to hone the cylinders once its broke loose



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TimV

12-29-2003 15:46:24




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 Re: Re: Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to James Williams, 12-29-2003 15:22:08  
Thanks for the tip--it might be worth a try. I'm no stranger to stuck engines, but this one has me baffled. Among the peculiarities of this situation is that the Maytag is a one-piece cylinder and head, so you can't pull the head off. Furthermore, the spark plug hole is at an angle to the piston, so you can't get a straight shot to hit it with a wooden dowel or something similar. Finally, the Maytags are 2-stroke, and the piston is stuck JUST at the point where the exhaust port leaks fluid out of it when I pour it in. It didn't leak originally, which leads me to suspect that one of my concoctions got enough crud loosened up to allow fluid to seep down by the rings, but it's not enough to wedge a screwdriver up in the opening and pry (which I'd be scared of doing anyway on general principles) but enough to not let any pressure-inducing method (grease, air, etc.) work properly. I'm sure I'll get it (or break something....) eventually, but I've been fiddling with this little bugger for 6 months now and I'm no further along.

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wethersire1@aol.com

12-29-2003 18:29:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to TimV, 12-29-2003 15:46:24  
Just wondering who would carry P.B Blaster? Sounds like I could sure use some.



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CNKS

12-29-2003 18:45:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to wethersire1@aol.com, 12-29-2003 18:29:34  
Walmart



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TimV

12-29-2003 18:39:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: P B BLASTER? in reply to wethersire1@aol.com, 12-29-2003 18:29:34  
Most any Napa should carry it--or at least that's where I get mine. I'm sure a lot of the big car-care chains or one of the online tool stores (McMaster--Carr, MSC, Enco, etc.) carry it as well. It's good stuff--my WD-40 hardly ever gets used anymore, and it's far better than Liquid Wrench or similar penetrating oil. I've heard a lot of good things about Kroil as well, but can't vouch for them personally as no one locally carries it.

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