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tractorhead

12-30-2003 13:48:36

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Thats about the last words my friend said as he lay dieing when when his 8n came over on his chest.Bob was pulling old farm machinery out of his ditch, first two came right out the third piece snaged a stump,over he went in a blink,Bob died before medical help arrived.Bob was not new to tractors,he was in his 60ties had tractors all his life,Indeed he knew better,but like all of us we get in a hurry and dont take time to think Goodby Bob,hope we all can again remember to be careful

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Paul in Mich

12-31-2003 13:43:37

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

I am one of the lucky ones to have flipped an 8N and lived to tell about it. I was a 13 year old know it all kid at the time and was running wide open across a bean field steering the thing with my feet. (Those of you who know the 8N steering mechanism know what I'm talking about) I gave it a hard left, and ended up crawling out from under it. Yes, I should have known better. ONe year later my cousin who was the closest person I ever had to a brother, rolled a Farmall H in the middle of the road 2 days shy of his 14th birthday, and was crushed by the steering post. That got everyone's attention. To this day, the township has never been the same. To this day it brings tears to my eyes when I think that it could have all been avoided had we shown just a little respect for tractors and their potential to inflict the ultimate harm should we get too arrogant. I didn't know your friend, but my heart goes out to you because I do know what it is like to lose a friend that way. 50 years haven't taken the tremble out of my hands as I write this post. Lets all be careful at all times.

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BlackDirtKid(TX)

12-30-2003 22:14:40

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

My condolences to you for your friend.
Lets all be super careful out there and remember, when your pulling ALWAYS have line of pull Below centerline of the axle!!!! Lower the better ,slow and easy does it .I plan to be around nother 70 years! Didn't get this far by rushing it.

Richard TX

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Jim

12-30-2003 19:32:53

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

In memory of Bob, how about us posting some safety tips? Ill start...
1. Never raise your loader bucket above the tractor when moving or on a steep hill.
2. Always go slow and look behind you when dragging something. Use lots of chain so if it catches and flips, it cant reach you. For something like a log, hook on one end, never in the middle.
3. Slow down to make a sharp turn. Especially with a narrow front end.

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Loren - Minnesota

12-30-2003 20:13:17

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Re: Re: I should have known better in reply to Jim, 12-30-2003 19:32:53

My condolances also. I'd like add one more safety tip. We didn't have the under rear end drawbar on our 8N. We used the V type drawbar, attached to the side arms and bar on the 3 point. But we always used the braces that attach to the ends of the 3 point and up to the 3rd link. Also had the braces attached to the lowest hole on the 3rd link.

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BOB

12-30-2003 18:57:34

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

ALL will take a moment and pray

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Dell (WA)

12-30-2003 18:40:10

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

TractorHead..... ...my condolances and sympathies in the loss of your friend Bob.

Its NOT the 8N's fault or 8N design weakness, your friend admitted it by saying "I should have known better".

To reiterate: DON'T NEVER EVER PULL ENNYTHANG from that handy dandy 3-point toplink under yer butt buckett, 'cuz it'll pull yer tractor over on top of you quicker than a flash and we will all be offering condolances and sympathies to the surviving family members and friends..... ...Dell, self-appointed Safety Preacher

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Tim

12-30-2003 17:41:57

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

Sorry to hear about your friend.

It makes me wonder if anyone has ever made an automatic kill switch for the engine that senses angles?

In theory it would be easy to make with a relay and a mercury switch. This could be wired to the magneto, distributor, or the ignition computer...

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scotc

12-31-2003 16:47:33

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Re: Re: I should have known better in reply to Tim, 12-30-2003 17:41:57

theory is good but I dont know if the mercury switch would stay on in a rough feild, and could an uphill shut it down? Setting the kill angle would be a lot of hit and miss research, maybe drive up and down the biggest slope the tractor sees, or park at the bottom and move the switch till it cuts out. And cosidering that any merc. switch I've seen is made for 120 or 240 volts, it should be able to handle being wired into the ignition's feed line.

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Bart

12-30-2003 16:30:59

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

Very sorry to hear about your friend Bob. I lost a 25 year old neighbor a few years ago. Farm tractor on a side hill with a loader. Would wheelie braces attached to the drawbar help avoid these flip overs? I've seen them at antique tractor pulls. I'm seriously thinking of trying them on my tractors. Of course they won't cure hurrying or not being carefull. Nothing will. Will keep Bob in mind. Sorry.

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12-30-2003 16:22:38

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

very sorry to hear about your friend.

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max

12-30-2003 15:53:32

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

Tractorhead My condolences to your good friend Bob. As sombody here once said, "tractors are damn unforgiving"
Good for us all to here about and learn from, to bad that it was such a tragic lesson.
max

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KURT

12-30-2003 15:52:47

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

It is stories like that which made me get rid of my Farmall H. I had a couple of minor close calls, I almost ran right into my garage (and would have knocked the wall off the block), I was quick enough with the brake to stop just in time. It was then when I said, HHHmmmm, I could have been killed. i donated the H to my local church.

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Bob

12-30-2003 19:38:57

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Re: Re: I should have known better in reply to KURT, 12-30-2003 15:52:47

You donated your "KILLER" tactor to your church!!!???

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Bill B

12-30-2003 15:14:47

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

Sorry about your friend. It is tough to loose a friend, and even more so when it could have been avoided. 3 point hitch is great, but too easy to adjust the pull point above the axel, and over it goes in the blink of an eye.

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Michael Soldan

12-30-2003 14:24:35

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

Tractorhead, that is a sad message but an important one for all of us. When I was 14 over 40 years ago I was pulling a manure spreader up onto a cement pad with a C Chalmers, all of a sudden the tractor was almost perpendicular, my dad screamed, I hit the clutch and the tractor came bouncing back down, it was that close to going back over, 'bout a year later a neighbour was skidding logs with an AC 45, tractor came back over him and killed him, I can tell you it happens in the blink of an eye. I am sorry for your friend . You take care...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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The Red

12-30-2003 14:02:06

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Re: I should have known better in reply to tractorhead, 12-30-2003 13:48:36

Sorry for your loss. It is important that we all keep in mind the safety limitations of our farm equipment. Keep them in the "safe flight envelope".

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