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Great weather for old IRON.

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Hugh MacKay

01-02-2004 03:40:35




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Look at the posts in last few days, and the unseasonably mild weather across North America. DO YOU SUPOSE IT COULD LAST UNTIL APRIL, and just get a bit warmer then.

Talked with my brother in central Nova Scotia yesterday. He tells me that at midnight Christmas Eve it was 17C on his back deck. To you guys south of the border 63F. I reminded him of Dec 26 about 12 years ago in the same community -40 C or F. He came to give me a boost with my 6.2 Chevy diesel, block heater had stopped working. Old Chevy had no leaks, so we filled a cast iron fry pan with charcoal, and placed it under the diesel oil pan. In about 45 min the 6.2 started. Don't ever try this with a gas engine.

Neither one of those temperatures are very common at Christmas in Nova Scotia. I have only seen -40 twice in my life time 1992 and 1956. In 1956 my dad and I had left Farmall 300 at other end of farm, temperature went to -40F over night. As we approached the 300 in pickup, dad said,"I hope it will not start." We disconected the PTO seasonal disconnect first. The 300, 6 volt, unassisted, went ur----ur-----ur and on the forth one she fired up. The governors were frozen, I immediately jumped on tractor, and in 4th gear with brakes on in deep snow, managed to keep the revs down until governors thawed out. So now you guys see why I get a bit upset on some of these much needed 12 volt conversions.

By the way on that Nova Scotia mild weather, one of the blessings of living on the east coast be it US or Canada, south winds always bring the effects of the Gulf of Mexico Stream. Here in SW Ontario, a south wind in winter is just more cold air out of the US midwest. I miss that gulf stream, was good as a trip south.

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James Williams

01-02-2004 14:25:39




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
In the past several days I have worked out side in a short sleve shirt,Put my H back together And drove my F12 around town.Just driving that old hunk of iron makes it worth every penny i have invested



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SAm in NS

01-02-2004 13:04:39




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
Well the weather here has been pretty crazy. Where I am it was up to 12 degrees (C) on Christmas day and pouring rain. It has been very good weather for old tractors, I think I've been on mine three days in a row now, it probably doesn't know what hit it. However it's not too good for skiing. I think I know what's caused the high temps though, I've finally built a hitch and snow plow for my tractor, and now it refuses to snow. SAm in NS

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Jimmy King

01-02-2004 09:48:57




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
Hugh here in S. W. Mo. we have an old saying if you don,t like the weather just stick around 10 min. At 11:43 AM CST it shows 62 F on my patio and very windy, if it doesn't lay will be a very interesting night with a 6 wheeler and a 26 ft box!! It is supposed to rain tomorrow and Sun. then drop to 16F Sun night Mon. & Tues. low 30's for high teens at night.



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Paul in Mich

01-02-2004 07:12:14




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
Hugh, I spent the Christmas 2000 in Newfoundland, and while it wasnt that much colder than here in the Mid-west, it had snow like I had never seen before, and it got worse after I left. Snow was piled so high that they had warnings out for kids to keep off the snow piles lest they come in contact with electric wires. Driving down some streets was like driving through a tunnel or labrynth. The street signs were covered and one could hardly pick out any landmarks. All told, I believe they ended up with over 36 feet of snow in the months of Dec, Jan, and Feb. I'm sure that being from N.S., and north of the border that this isnt quite that unusual, but for this old Michigander, it was a sight and experience to remember.

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Hugh MacKay

01-02-2004 13:45:01




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 Re: Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Paul in Mich, 01-02-2004 07:12:14  
Paul: I bet you had a barrel of fun in Newfoundland, man do those guys know how to have a party. They have a party song down there, goes like this," For the second time since we've been here, it's gettin dark again."

I was at a Charlie Pride concert in Halifax, a few years back, Charlie had just done a concert in Newfoundland. He was trying to quote some of Newfoundland sayings and phrases. He figured they would give Mississippi a run for colorful speech.

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Paul in Mich

01-02-2004 14:34:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 13:45:01  
Hugh, You are sooooo ooo right. Our Newfie brothers and sisters have partying down to a fine science. While there, I was encouraged....no, urged....No, shamed into imbibing in my fair share of "Screech" to ring in the New Year. For that, I was given a 750ml bottle of "de Terre Nueve" Rhum (Screech) to bring back to the States, which sits unopened in my cabinet. (May be an appropriate spirit for two old geezers to converse over if and when the two should meet) As to the colorful speech, I found it so colorful that people from one village could scratch their heads over what someone from another village was saying. At a New Years party, I sat with amazment as someone from Grand Bank in his dialect tried to get someone from Harbour Grace to understand him and visa-versa. I did have to laugh at the story one told of the tourist farmer from the Mid-West asked a Newfie farmer how big a spread he was farming. When the Newfie farmer pointed out the boundries of his farm which may have been a stretch to make 40 acres, the Midwest farmer trying to impress a Newfoundlander explained that on his farm, he could get in his pickup truck at 8:00 am and it would take him till 5"00 pm to reach the far end of his property, to which the Newfie retorted, "Chap, I know what ya mean, I aad a truck once, meeself, that wouldnt go much faster, eh.....

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Will- in Mn.

01-02-2004 06:50:46




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
Greetings Hugh,

I was in Sydney, Nova Scotia a year ago march,and there was hardley any snow! beautiful country,i was visiting a friend,stayed a week...sure was neat looki'n at the ice pack when it would come into the harbor,then a day or two later it was out to sea! also seen some neat Cockshut tractors on various farms,the temp there at the time was rather mild as i recall,i talked to my mom n dad last Sunday they said there is hardely any snow on the ground,and that is in central Mn.and their temps are mild this winter.

I agree with ya Hugh about converti'n to 12 volt.i wouldn't do it,no way! i luv them tractors stock!

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Hugh MacKay

01-02-2004 11:42:51




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 Re: Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Will- in Mn., 01-02-2004 06:50:46  
Will: I have seen Sydney Harbour full of ice on June 3rd. If the drift ice is flowing from the north, and an east wind comes up, it will fill Sydney Harbour full I have also, but not that late seen the Gulf of St Lawerence full of drift ice with PEI completely surounded by ice middle of April. That old North Atlantic just about at the freezing point by spring. Takes all witer to cool it off and all summer to warm it up. Don't have a spring down there, just 6 weeks of rough sledding. The autumns are beautiful.

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Dave 2N

01-02-2004 05:36:58




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
Hugh-
A Happy New Year to you.
We've been enjoying some exceptional late December/January 1 weather here on the NY/PA border. It isn't usually like this but I'll take it. My philosophy is that every one of these good days can't be taken away from us and each one moves us that much further along in the right direction. The good weather gave me a chance to get some time in enclosing the new shop; but by yesterday afternoon, it was just too darned nice to be putting steel up on the sides of the building so I headed for the tractors. Got some good time in on the JD A, the Super C and the Ford 2N.
I agree with you about the uneeded 12 volt conversions. My 46 Ford 2N has always been a great starter with its well-maintained 6 volt system. The others start well too but my Super H positively roars to life the first time you hit the starter.

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Bob in SE Nebraska

01-02-2004 05:33:28




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
We had really great weather here too. Yesterday I got a chance to replace a rim on the back of my 400. The rim came from a salvage yard and I was able to get it all cleaned up and painted in the good weather. Now the 400 is back together and ready to take care of the snow we are supposed to get next Sunday.

Working on my Farmall was a good way to start the new year.

Bob



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Nebraska Cowman

01-02-2004 04:51:02




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
And oh yes, hugh, I've seen my dad many time build a fire with baler twine under the Ford 5000



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Nebraska Cowman

01-02-2004 04:49:39




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
yes hugh, I spent the day in a light jacket. But I still rmember 1978, Newyears day the was ice one the highlines and it never went off ofor 10 days. that was in PA and NY along the Lake shore. I was driving truck hauling milk and talk about freeze to death. We left the trucks run all night and they never did warm up.



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Paul in Mich

01-02-2004 07:17:28




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 Re: Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-02-2004 04:49:39  
1978 was a bitter one.....Columbus Ohio no exception. The guys in the railroad yards had the added challenge to keep the locomotives running at all times because if they ever shut off, they would never start again. I was working in a bottling plant at the time and with the dampness added to the bitter cold, I don't think I thawed out till May.



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Allan

01-02-2004 04:20:17




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
Hugh,

I totally agree with you on the 6 to 12 volt conversion thing.

Every time I read about someone doing this, I get a mental picture of a guy with a wrench in his hand scratchin' his head & sayin' to himself, "Aw, I think that I'll take the easy way out and cobble it".

Just my opinion,

Allan



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scotty

01-02-2004 03:57:42




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 Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 03:40:35  
Hi Hugh, That is indeed warm for Nova Scotia! But looking ahead into next weeks weather, looks like some pretty cold weather coming by wensday or thursday. Its been pretty warm here also, have been burning wood instead of coal. But things never stay the same in New England very long! Have a good day.

scotty



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Hugh MacKay

01-02-2004 04:28:50




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 Re: Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to scotty, 01-02-2004 03:57:42  
Scotty: That's New England and the Maritimes for you, depends on which way the wind is blowing. I was just thinking wait until the US midwest guys get on my case, reminding me that cold air coming in on the south wind, is just recycled Canadian Prairie air.



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Steve - IN

01-02-2004 05:09:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-02-2004 04:28:50  
Hugh,
You got that right. Most of the really cold air we get here is when the jet stream acts up and sends it down from western Canada.

If we get too mild a winter, the global warming wackos will take it as absolute proof they're right. Bans on old fossil fuel burners will be at the top of their list. Be careful what you wish for.



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Paul in Mich

01-02-2004 14:47:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Steve - IN, 01-02-2004 05:09:18  
And what ever you do, DO NOT leave a cigarette burning in the ash tray. You'll have two sets of Wacko's after your hide, the Global warming wackos, and the Second hand smoke wackos, not to mention the PETA wackos if there is an animal within 30 yards.



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Jeff

01-02-2004 08:02:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Steve - IN, 01-02-2004 05:09:18  
You got to love those wakos! On the radio a talk show was saying how in California "LEFT COAST" they built all of those wind mills. They have something like 1000 of them in one place. Wakos have won. NOW another problem is that a LOT of birds get kilt,bumped off,like 20'000 you know, Darwin said about smart and dumb ones. YEP another bunch of the wako crowd is sue happy with the other buch. Love it!

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JB

01-02-2004 19:03:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Great weather for old IRON. in reply to Jeff, 01-02-2004 08:02:23  
Hugh, re charcoal under the oil pan and 300 starting, back in the late 50's we had a woodlot that was 7 miles from the farm and we would leave a tractor there until the snow became to deep. Sometimes when it was really cold -27F and colder, to start the JD 420U we put chainsaw gas in an old hub cap and lite it under the oil pan. In 58 we took the 300U to the woodlot. It would start most times but for insurance we would park it on a steep hill and if it would not start with the starter it would start by rolling down the hill in 5th gear and popping the clutch.
With the 300U I missed all the snow showers I used to get with the overhead exhaust of the JD 420U. After a fresh snow fall, everytime you went under an evergreen the put-put exhaust of the JD would blow the snow out of the tree and down the back of your neck.

Fun times of my youth.

Happy New Year
JB

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