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MIke P.

01-04-2004 14:00:40

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I don't wish to make trouble, but someone on the green board says that the IH "M" was "the worse tractor they ever owned" from my experiance farmalls in general were pretty good tractors

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The F-20 Man

01-05-2004 19:48:49

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

It doesn't matter how many JD tractor lovers are out there that say farmalls suck i think everyone here agrees that if we put a chain around a Farmalls drawbar and JD's drawbar all us IH lovers can already predict wats gona happen befor they even hook up if any comments relating to this i would love to here them

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Hugh MacKay

01-06-2004 18:27:51

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Re: Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to The F-20 Man, 01-05-2004 19:48:49

John Deere probably didn't have any 300,000 unit plus tractors but they did have their share of 250,000 unit plus tractors. I rather doubt those buyers were wrong either.

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Dick Davis

01-05-2004 03:02:54

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

Well, Mike stay off the green board and you won't have these problems. Now wasn't that easy? My nickel Dick Davis

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2004 19:36:44

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

Mike: I rather doubt the owners of 300,000 new Farmall M's back then were wrong. There were only a handful of tractors topped those numbers. Without doing an actual count, I think you can count them on your fingers of one hand. Anyone who would make such a comment about any of the 300,000+ production unit tractors, is only letting the rest of the world know how big an IDIOT he really is.

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Bryce Andreasen (Magnum)

01-04-2004 18:07:25

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

The farmall H and M were the tractors that revolutionized America. They went faster than any other tractor, and four cylender.

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Farmall Daddy

01-04-2004 17:54:26

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

John Deere never knew how to make a real 4 or 6 cylinder. They were behind time when everyone else came out with 6 cylinders, and they were still piddling with the loud sounding 2 cylinders. Look at it today, i don't know why people pay 10's of thousands of dollars for them?

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JD-Tractor

01-04-2004 18:01:14

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Re: Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to Farmall Daddy, 01-04-2004 17:54:26

Because they are purttttt ty!!! When deere had the same power as the 4's and sixes why would they want to just add more parts and wear and tear. If Deere could have cooled the Two cylinders properly as they added Horses they would have kept using the two cylinder Idea!

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JD Know it all

01-06-2004 18:22:20

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Re: Re: Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to JD-Tractor, 01-04-2004 18:01:14

That isn't completly true. The JDs had bigger engines, but the Farmalls had more power.

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jim in ny

01-04-2004 17:29:50

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

I grew up on the red ones still run em. my brother was too but for some unexplained reason he likes the green junk.I suspect that ma dropped him on his head when he was young.

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Doug in OR

01-04-2004 17:11:46

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

I drove many different brands/models when I was growing up on the farm. If we didn't own a particular model, odds were that a neighbor did. The *one* tractor I remember as being hard to drive was the JD model G. Without power steering, I just remember being totally beat after steering that beast all day long.

As others here have said, no tractor was perfect. JD was guilty of being a bit overpriced, if anything. To each, their own. I won't turn anyone down if they wish to give me a classic tractor, no matter what the make . :)

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JD-Tractor

01-04-2004 16:23:18

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

Farmed in the 50 and 60's and then didn't farm till the 80 and 90s with classic tractors and farm equipment.There were no user friendly tractors untill the mid 60's If you guys are going to argue about efficient and user friendly tractors from that era then you all have no memories !!!!

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Bob

01-04-2004 17:19:54

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Re: Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to JD-Tractor, 01-04-2004 16:23:18

I think the 4010's, and 3010's, etc., from 1961 and up were pretty user-friendly!

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JD-Tractor

01-04-2004 16:24:35

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Re: Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to JD-Tractor, 01-04-2004 16:23:18

Me again!!!PS the words user friendly did not exist back then red or green

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01-04-2004 15:53:38

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

Hi, I hope he was comparing M to JD R. In 50's we had both JD 420U and SC. There wasn't much difference except SC with NFE was far superior for cultivating and mowing hay. The SC had a beter speed range in its 4 speed transmission. JD had 3pt. hitch which was a plus. When we traded SC for 300U in 58, the 300U was far superior to JD as it had IPTO, 5 speed with TA and more HP but had an addiction to gasoline.

Only green left is forage harvester, blower, and running gear.

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Kelly C

01-04-2004 15:46:12

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

HA thats why they sold so many M's. All those guys buying them. Then wishing JD had any thing to compete with it.
In its day the M was the big daddy of big daddys.
Some day I am going to get one of those green toys for the wife. She needs some new lawn ornaments.
Cant put a M on the lawn they still need to work.

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01-04-2004 15:24:13

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

green paint is not worth 2000 and up more. My 2 cents

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Jimmy King

01-04-2004 15:18:36

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

Mike I will not argue that one is better than the other I grew up on Red tractors, in GM cars and Trucks. I still have red tractors and GM cars and trucks, not that they are bear but that is what I like. I also love to hear the old two cyl J D's run. I Dad had a cousin who had two J D 's and two Orange tractors, then two green, one ford, and a M he told Dad once the M would pull circles around both John Deere's They now have all John Deere.

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Bill Smith

01-04-2004 14:48:19

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

Here we go again on the Red versus Green war. You know you can always tell a John Deere enthusiasts, but you can't tell them much. LOL In all reality, I am a Red fan myself nothing against the Green fans or there tractors. Personally, on the older green tractors, I think the hand clutch was a pain in the rear, and John Deere hung on to that early 1900's 2 cylinder technology a little to long. However, they probably were good tractors and my reasons for not liking them are probably poor ones. If I like appels and not oranges, and you like oranges and not apples, I am probably not going to change your mind and you are probably not going to change mine. Bottom line is, if he didn't like the M for whatever reasons, well I guess he is entitled to that, but no need to compare apples to oranges. I think a little stubbornism comes with being a tractor enthusiast, but no need in getting into a hair pulling fight over it. I have a Green buddy, and we always give each other a little freindly flack. We learned pretty fast not to take things very seriously. We would of probably killed each other by now if we had. No need to take things past the level of fun. The main thing is, just keep on tractoring.

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Charlie

01-04-2004 14:08:32

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

I guess any tractor can be the worst one ever owned if the tractor maintenance and repairs are kept up with. In this case I would consider the source and not loose any sleep over it.

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Geoff

01-04-2004 14:07:18

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Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to MIke P., 01-04-2004 14:00:40

Why worry about what someone on the "Green" board says? I have an M and an MD and others and show, farm, and pull alongside of lots of green tractors.And that's just what I enjoy. We rib each other about colors, but basically we're all tracror nuts.

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Catskill Pete

01-04-2004 17:08:31

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Re: Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to Geoff, 01-04-2004 14:07:18

Just had to put my two cents in, red or green most of us are looking at this from the wrong perspective, comparing it to what came later.
Try looking at what was available before that model. Case in point, My father bought a Ford 2N in the early 50s and farmed for years with it. When he talks about baling hay with it with a IH 45 baler, I find amazing that its even possible. When I mention this to him he points out that prior to that little Ford they used a team of horses. No pto etc, hmmm I guess that tractor is starting to look pretty good.

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Dave@NY

01-05-2004 14:08:30

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Re: Re: Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to Catskill Pete, 01-04-2004 17:08:31

I can remember my Dad bailing hay with his 8-N and a IHC 45,even on the side hill fields.Then an F-20,finally a Ford 861,

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JD-Tractor

01-04-2004 17:25:03

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Re: Re: Re: Back me up guys!! in reply to Catskill Pete, 01-04-2004 17:08:31

Keep in Mind back then everyone made the most of every situation and did whatever it took to accomplish the task at hand.You did what you had to do and men were men!How do you like my soapbox?oh yeah we had soapboxes back then that we used for all sorts of things(LOL)

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