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Rear rims for M

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Nick S

01-07-2004 17:42:01




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Recently bought a M, got it home and found it had fluid in the tires. The rims are rusted fairly bad around the valve stem. Where can you buy replacement rims, and what do they cost? Or can you repair the rims?

P.S.Why don't people just use cast wheel wieghts- it saves a lot of time and money.




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Paul in Mich

01-07-2004 20:53:23




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 Re: Rear rims for M in reply to Nick S, 01-07-2004 17:42:01  
Nick, There are numerous ways to repair a bad spot in a rim especially if the bad spot is limited to that area around the valve stem. what is harder to deal with is large rust areas caused from barnyard acids. The remedys posted are all good ideas, and if the affected area is from Calcium Chloride at and around the valve stem area, that is certainly worth trying to repair as opposed to buying new rims. As to your question as to why Calcium Chloride is used in the first place, the reason is simple and has been addressed in previous forums from time to time. Using Calcium Chloride obviously adds weight to the tractor, but more importantly, it is added as ballast, meaning that it lowers the center of gravity if the proper amount of fluid is added. If the tires were filled to the top, then that wouldnt accomplish the ballast effect, but if fluid is added to, if standing still, a level of just past the rim but below the axle height, the ballast is achieved. This is a steadying effect which is most important on hilly ground. On level ground, the benefit is that it provides maximum weight at ground level.

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Dale13

01-07-2004 20:32:43




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 Re: Rear rims for M in reply to Nick S, 01-07-2004 17:42:01  
if you find another rim that is rusted out it can be used as a donor for patches.they always rust at the stem.Use a plasma cutter or a sawsall to cut out the correct size piece for a patch and do same for rust hole,weld in ,rind smooth.



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Adam

01-07-2004 19:07:06




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 Re: Rear rims for M in reply to Nick S, 01-07-2004 17:42:01  
I don't know what fairly bad is but I have heard of people fixing it with JB Weld. They say that a 20 gauge shotgun shell is the same size as the valve stem so theystick that in the hole and work the JB Weld around it kind of like body putty and after it dries pull the shell out. I have never done this myself but heard that it works good.
Hope this helps,
Adam



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Michael Soldan

01-07-2004 18:19:27




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 Re: Rear rims for M in reply to Nick S, 01-07-2004 17:42:01  
Nick, using calcium chloride in tractor tires for weight goes back a long time. Technically it shouldn't harm rims, except for people being careless. A valve stem that is allowed to leak over the years will definitely cause corrosion, spilling and slopping the fluid when changing a tire and never rinsing off the rim and outter surface of the tube will also add to the problem. Remember that it often takes decades for the corrosion to ruin the rim. There are solutions. I have seen rims that have simply had the damaged area welded shut,ground smooth and a new valve stem hole drilled elsewhere on the rim. The job can be done so that the average eye will never see the repair. I have a 1940 M, loaded rear tires, wheel weights , original rims..no sign of the rims rusting out. If you choose to do this type of repair, clean, prime and paint the inner surface of the rim while the tire is off, this will preserve the rim on the inside..I thing new rims are around$140 a pop, a good used one likely around $100..the repair may be worthwhile...good luck whichever way you go....Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Nick S

01-07-2004 18:33:15




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 Re: Re: Rear rims for M in reply to Michael Soldan, 01-07-2004 18:19:27  
Thanks Mike, I'll take the tires off and see what the inside looks like, if its ok i'll try the welding idea

Thanks again...Nick S



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