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PAUL

01-10-2004 03:11:35




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I was looking at some test results from castrol motor oil co,have been working with internal combustion engines for years.We currently are using 5w40 in all turbo diesel 4 cylinder engines recommended by the engineers and was wondering why not in my smta since I can get this oil for little or nothing.However I dont want to give the old girl a heart attack.Paul.




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Gibby

01-10-2004 10:36:37




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 Re: synthetic oil in reply to PAUL, 01-10-2004 03:11:35  
I am not a big time rebuilder of engines - just a guy that digs into things before he jumps. I just bought a new Ford Turbo 6.0 liter Diesel. When I went to do the first change I looked up the oil. Since I had been using Synthetic in my old gas chevy I thought that would be a great oil for the new diesel. After searching - calling Ford - I found out that the Mobil 1 oil is not Diesel rated and would void my warranty. Just my 2 cents worth.

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dlp

01-10-2004 10:12:39




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 Re: synthetic oil in reply to PAUL, 01-10-2004 03:11:35  
I do know that the synthetic oils make my air cooled engines run a lower temp. This has got to be good! Have ran it in water cooled engines & have gotten high mileage out of them. Even tough it's priced higher, I believe it's better in the long run. I guess you could say I'm pretty much sold on it!



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42FarmallH

01-10-2004 07:22:43




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 Re: synthetic oil in reply to PAUL, 01-10-2004 03:11:35  
Broke my H in on dino oil for the first 50 hours, then a flush fill of Mobil synthetic for 20 hours, now it has Mobil Delvac 5w-40 year round. Haven't had any problems with it yet, no leaks either.

For those who say you can't break an engine in on synthetic, what about the Dodge Viper? It comes factory filled with Mobil 1 synthetic!

For me, the synthetic is cost prohibitive in my 2 old vehicles, because they leak and burn about 3 to 4 quarts in 2000 miles. When I get vehicles that don't waste oil, then I'll run synthetic in them too...

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Fred - Kansas

01-10-2004 05:38:09




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 Re: synthetic oil in reply to PAUL, 01-10-2004 03:11:35  
My vote goes to synthetic oil. Price is the only thing that keeps me with crude based oil. But the price has been coming down.

Fred - Kansas



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Steve - IN

01-10-2004 04:41:47




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 Re: synthetic oil in reply to PAUL, 01-10-2004 03:11:35  
Paul,
You've asked one of the "hot button" questions which will probably generate opinions ranging from "synthetics are nectar of the gods" to "synthetics are the devil's work". So here's my dogma --

Years ago I was building a lot of engines and tried synthetic Ams and Mobil 1 even though we were getting Valvoline crude based for free. Few things I learned -- 1. The synthetic oil temp ran lots cooler than the crude based on a same day A/B comparison. 2. After tearing down a crude and a syn engine with the same number of hours; the rod and main bearings showed a whole lot less wear on the engine running syn. 3. A gearbox running syn ran 15% to 20% cooler than a conventional lube in a gearbox (and actually I think the best use of syn's is in a gearbox).

You'll get these objections - 1. Price. which is valid gripe, but you say you can get the syn cheaply. 2. Leaks. I've never seen it, but people have had that problem. There is a Mobil 1 flavor for older engines that has polymer leak inibitors. 3. Break in. Guys say you should break in with crude to seat the rings. Dunno, I've been dumb enough to use syn from the get go, and haven't seen a difference.

I've got two tractors over 50. One I use Mobil 1 in and it seems to work well. The other is an oil burner and so it gets heavy weight crude based until I get ambitious enough to do an engine rebuild. If you're getting the syn for next to nothing; it's hard to think you could go too far wrong.

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Nebraska Cowman

01-10-2004 04:25:04




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 Re: synthetic oil in reply to PAUL, 01-10-2004 03:11:35  
years ago there was concern switching to detergent oil but most of these old tractors have been running on detergent oil for years now, don't know what it could hurt. just keep it clean, keep it changed.



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