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crankshaft main caps on farmall super m

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keith h.

02-06-2004 22:38:33




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i removed main caps and didn't realize they were not marked. now i need to know how they go back - incert locking tabs together or opposite and which end cap goes where




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Stan(VA).

02-07-2004 20:18:06




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 Re: crankshaft main caps on farmall super m in reply to keith h., 02-06-2004 22:38:33  
None of the motors I have had the 'pleasure' of dealing with this problem on (3 so far, 2 with mains swapped, 1 with rods swapped) have had the main caps marked, which I suppose is why it's so easy to mix them up. On the two with mains swapped, both had the thrust cap in the right place, but the other two were swapped.

Anyway, if your motor is still on the tractor with crank in place, and inserts still in the caps, then you know where the thrust cap goes (thrust bearing is the 'C' shaped one with sides), you will have to measure clearances (plastigauge, etc) to determine proper place for the other two.

If motor is totally dissasembled, again, start by identifying the thrust cap which should be the center cap on this motor (center cap on H/M series, rear cap on A/B/C series). (there should be two caps with similar casting marks and one that's different, that is the thrust cap.) You also need to know what direction they face. You often get lucky if the bolt holes are slightly offset drilled on the thrust, the sides will not line up when on the wrong way. Once you find that one you can usually go by casting numbers facing the same way to get the others that might not be so obvious. You will need to measure the diameter in each bore and do a select fit to find proper place for the front and back caps. Good luck,
Stan(VA).

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Stan(VA).

02-07-2004 20:21:53




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 Re: Re: crankshaft main caps on farmall super m in reply to Stan(VA)., 02-07-2004 20:18:06  
Just re-read and remembered that yes, the locking tabs should be easier to find proper direction. They do go on the same side.
Stan(VA).



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farmall

02-07-2004 16:23:57




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 Re: crankshaft main caps on farmall super m in reply to keith h., 02-06-2004 22:38:33  
The mains are marked. You just need to clean them up and look close. The marked side goes towards cam.



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Farmer Bob

02-07-2004 08:49:56




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 Re: crankshaft main caps on farmall super m in reply to keith h., 02-06-2004 22:38:33  
I know that the rod caps are numbered 1,2,3,4 with numbers starting from the front of the engine. Main caps may be numbered but can't remember for sure. Install them so the stamped in numbers are closest to the camshaft side of the engine. If the mains are also numbered, #2 should be the center thrust bearing cap. Main caps should be torqued to 100 ft. pounds.



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Bob

02-07-2004 12:06:04




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 Re: Re: crankshaft main caps on farmall super m in reply to Farmer Bob, 02-07-2004 08:49:56  
Keith,

If you follow Farmer Bob's suggestions, and get the caps in the correct postions, look VERY CLOSLY with them cleaned up well... The rods were honed at the factory with the caps on, and the mains were align-honed with the caps in place, so in all the cap bores, if you look closely enough, there will be hone marks that will match up if everything is in place as it was when it left the factory.

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