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Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber

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Lee Sackett

02-11-2004 06:48:07




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Hi all. I ran across a very early 1939 M the other day on 36" rubber. The tractor needs to be cosmetically restored but mechanically it is good. Head was re-done by NAPA shop not too many hours ago and new engine bearings were installed at that time as well. Still has the 2 fuel tanks (Gas/Fuel). Sheet metal is good. Has old tranny top w/ divit in the middle. I was wondering what a reasonable offer would be for the tractor. The guy knows it is rare, but doesn't really know what it should be worth. He said something about $1500, but was a little wishy washy. How many M's were made on 36" split rims? All help appreciated! (I don't have the serial number yet)

Thanks!

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JPY

02-11-2004 13:45:01




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 Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to Lee Sackett, 02-11-2004 06:48:07  
Early M & H's had the same engine S/n as tractor S/n and the S/n was also stamped in right channel at the grill base. That adds value. We have M #549, 49th one made. I found a origional seat assembly in a junk yard and got it for $100. Repro's run $400. Price he is asking is not unreasonable if you have to have a 39!



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Paul in Mich

02-11-2004 09:45:02




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 Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to Lee Sackett, 02-11-2004 06:48:07  
Lee, while I seldom if any ever respond to a thread inquiring as to the worth of a tractor, I will make an exception this time. I would say that if the tractor runs well, and the sheet metal is good as you state, then I don't think you can go wrong with the price you indicated. YOu may try to negotiate downward more and see just what the present owner will accept, but asside from having to scrounge for 36" rims, if they are bad, you have a valuable tractor when restored.

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Brown Dirt Cowboy

02-11-2004 09:14:31




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 Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to Lee Sackett, 02-11-2004 06:48:07  
Lee looking at my "M" parts book it shows that the"M" could be equiped with 3 different 36" rims,a 1piece a 2 piece or 3 piece rim. 38" rims in 9, 10, and 11" widths and 2 piece and 3 piece 40" rims. I would bet the 40" rims are hard to find today. I have a friend that has a '39 "M" with the 2 piece 36" rims.'39 "M" serial numbers would be 501 to 7239 according to Guy Fay's Data Book. If you get the tractor bought it should be a nice project. I own '39 "M" No. 1094. The 594th one built. Tom

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Wouldn't that be

02-11-2004 12:16:56




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 Re: Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to Brown Dirt Cowboy, 02-11-2004 09:14:31  
The 595th one built



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CNKS

02-11-2004 17:43:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to Wouldn't that be, 02-11-2004 12:16:56  
1094-500=594, 1st serial was 501.



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Brown Dirt Cowboy

02-12-2004 09:26:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to CNKS, 02-11-2004 17:43:32  
Thanks CNKS that was the way I had it figured. I thought maybe 'Wouldn't that be' was using some kind of 'new math'. Tom



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Carp

02-11-2004 09:10:35




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 Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to Lee Sackett, 02-11-2004 06:48:07  
Certainly sounds like it could be a 39. Like bill said, the value of the tracor if it is a 39 varies quite a bit with the area. One thing to look at is the originality of the tractor. Does it have the original seat on it? I have seen the original 39 seats sell for a pretty penny by themselves.

I have rambled on and not really answered your question. A good running M in in good orginal shape is worth anywhere from $800 to 1,500 in my area (Ohio). A lot depends on the tires and the sheet metal. 39's don't really bring a lot more (maybe $500 more at most)than any other H or M. At least in my esperience.

Hope that helps.

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Bill B

02-11-2004 06:53:20




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 Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to Lee Sackett, 02-11-2004 06:48:07  
A lot depends on location. Here in new england, they seem to bring more than in the mid west. I know a guy who has the 400 something M made, with the deck divot, and all, and he values it much higher than that.



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Van in AR

02-11-2004 08:26:31




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 Re: Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to Bill B, 02-11-2004 06:53:20  
What do you mean when you say "Deck divot", What part are you refering to as I have not heard that term before.
Thanks, Van



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Picture here

02-11-2004 11:36:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to Van in AR, 02-11-2004 08:26:31  
Ther is picture of early H with slot top and correct seat on page 3. Title early H PTO shield.



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Paul in Mich

02-11-2004 09:38:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Very Early Farmall M on 36 rubber in reply to Van in AR, 02-11-2004 08:26:31  
Van, It waws also known as "Slot top" or as some referred to as "Channel top" meaning there was a casting recess cutout on the transmission top for the early seat configuration. Both the H and M had it in 39. Whereas the later models had a tubeular seat base, the early models had a channel base. Also the early models had the shift pattern embossed in the same casting near the gearshift lever.

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