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Cliff Neubauer

02-12-2004 06:33:51




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topic of cavitation comes up on here every so often so I thought I would post a picture of what it looks like. These sleeves are out of our 1066, last fall it started getting alot of blow by and a few weeks ago I noticed it was blowing a little coolant out of the blow by tube. When we got it apart there was also alot of evidence that there has been some coolant in the oil. The #3 piston had a broken compression ring that was causing the extra blow by and you can see the o-rings on the bottom of the sleeves are pretty bad so I'm pretty sure that is where the coolant was coming from. The tractor has 7,200 hours on it and this is the first time it has had any engine work done to it, you can still see the cross hatch marks in the sleeves and the ring end gaps are around .021" which is well below the .029" that IH say's is the most you can have. The bearings were pretty thing with most of the bearing surface wore off on most of them.

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Kelly C

02-12-2004 17:55:31




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 Re: Cavitation pictures in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 02-12-2004 06:33:51  
Wonder if you would get cavitaion if some how they made a 2 part sleeve. Outer part made out of stainless steel or some thing like that and the inner part out of regular materials???



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jeff

02-13-2004 08:20:59




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 Re: Re: Cavitation pictures in reply to Kelly C, 02-12-2004 17:55:31  
Distilled water-treatment cartridge- and correct antifreeze. Check with the dealer for more info and your owners man.The local dealer just LOVES when these come in to the shop. Jeff



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Hugh MacKay

02-12-2004 13:12:15




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 Re: Cavitation pictures in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 02-12-2004 06:33:51  
Cliff: Those look very similar to the ones that came out of my 1066. Kind of hard to tell from photo, but besides those pin holes, (for want of a better word) mine also had indentations anywhere from 3/8" to 3/4" in diameter deep enough so cylinder wall was very thin. They just looked like someone made a rough dent with end of thumb. I think I see a bit of the same on yours, but not to the extent mine were.

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J in Pa

02-12-2004 11:13:27




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 Re: Cavitation pictures in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 02-12-2004 06:33:51  
saw your sleeves about cavitation. iv'e also seen some posts here about it. just what causes cavitation and does this occur just in diesels or in gasoline engines as well?
and is there anything that can be done to prevent it? thanks, J in Pa



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Farmallkid

02-12-2004 17:45:46




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 Re: Re: Cavitation pictures in reply to J in Pa, 02-12-2004 11:13:27  
If you put a water filter in to filter the coolant and change the coolant every couple years. that would slow it down.



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Road Warrior

02-12-2004 12:41:10




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 Re: Re: Cavitation pictures in reply to J in Pa, 02-12-2004 11:13:27  
Short explanation is here, for the complete story and prention, click the link below.

Constant vibration of the cylinder liner causes a momentary vacuum to form on its surface. Coolant boils into the vacuum and vapor bubbles implode on the surfaces of the liner, digging into unprotected liners.
This cause pits which can extend over time, through the thickness of the liner and allow coolant to enter the combustion chamber or crankcase.

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scotty

02-12-2004 07:49:42




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 Re: Cavitation pictures in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 02-12-2004 06:33:51  
Hi Cliff, A little off the topic, but a couple of years ago we had a discussion on HVLP spray guns, was wondering what if any suggestions you might have on purchase of one of these? Thanks.

scotty



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Cliff Neubauer

02-12-2004 16:58:11




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 Re: Re: Cavitation pictures in reply to scotty, 02-12-2004 07:49:42  
All I can say is get the best one you can afford, preferably a name brand gun and not an import knock off. I haven't used one but I have heard alot of great things about the DeVilbiss Finishline III guns and they only cost about $120. I have a Sharpe Platinum which was about $340 when I bought it and it is a great professional quality gun. I've used both cheap guns and my Sharpe and the Sharpe takes alot of the work out of getting a really good paint job. I would say that since I switched to an HVLP gun I have dropped my paint usage by 25% if not a little more so the gun has more than paid for itself.

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