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How many wieghts are on your M?

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1947 M

02-19-2004 15:22:32




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I have a farmall M that i use on the farm. I just put on new 14.9x38 tires. The old ones were filled, the new ones are not. It has one set of weights. I was going to add some more wieghts instead of fluid. How will 3 sets of wieghts work? Too little? Too much?




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Bill Smith

02-20-2004 11:07:22




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 Re: How many wieghts are on your M? in reply to 1947 M, 02-19-2004 15:22:32  
You are going to have to bolt on atleast 4 or 5 additional weights to each wheel to match the weight of fluid. Counting the 1 wheel weight that was already on there, you would be putting on atleast 5 to 6 weights per wheel. Not saying that it can't be done, but I wouldn't mess with putting anymore than 2, possibly 3 weights per wheel. If need more than that, perhaps figure out another placement for the weight. How much weight do you really need? There is no need for overkill when it comes to weighting a tractor. For light work, you really don't need any weight. For heavier work, you need enough weight to eliminate rear tire slippage. For use with a loader, you would want equivalent to fluid filled. Really heavy loader lifting with an M farmall is bad idea especially with tricycle front. As far as traction on snow and ice as mentioned in another post, extra weight to a point will help. Once past that point, you can add all the additional weight in the world, and you are still going to spin those wheels. Letting a little air out of the tires, tire chains, wide front end instead of narrow, ext. is more apt to do you more good on snow and ice than overkilling it with weight.

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John A

02-19-2004 20:19:19




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 Re: How many wieghts are on your M? in reply to 1947 M, 02-19-2004 15:22:32  
47 M, I have 12.4x38s on my ol M. The tires are loaded + 2 set of factory cast iron. I have 2 other sets for additional wt when needed.
Later,
John A.



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wolfy

02-19-2004 18:20:22




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 Re: How many wieghts are on your M? in reply to 1947 M, 02-19-2004 15:22:32  
Takes about 4 sets of wieghts to equal calcium fill.



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PeteNY

02-19-2004 17:42:02




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 Re: How many wieghts are on your M? in reply to 1947 M, 02-19-2004 15:22:32  
Depends on which weight class we are hooking in!



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Nebraska Cowman

02-19-2004 17:41:39




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 Re: How many wieghts are on your M? in reply to 1947 M, 02-19-2004 15:22:32  
3 sets on mine on 12.4 x 38 and they are fluid filled. still light with a bale of hay on the front.



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Hugh MacKay

02-19-2004 16:38:53




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 Re: How many wieghts are on your M? in reply to 1947 M, 02-19-2004 15:22:32  
I did a lot of farming with two tractors back in the 60s and 70s and used no weights a all. They were 560D and a 656D. These tractors both had 16.9x38 tires on rear and I had one set of duals I could use on either. These tractors never hauled many heavy loads on hard roads. The 560 pulled a forage harvester and wagon on the field a lot. In the early days I pulled a No.60- 4x16 plow with the 560. as well as a 14 foot vibra shank cultivator. The 656 on the other hand did a lot of haybine, baler, drilling, corn planting and 5x16 semimount plow. In my opinion in the field and only in the field more rubber on the ground will do just as well with less soil compaction.

Pulling on hard ground, roadways etc. is a completely different story. My Farmall 300 pulled wagons to the barn, 16' silage wagons and 22' hay wagons. I had 13.6x38 on it and loaded to the limit with chloride and two set of wheel weights. More rubber will just not give more traction on that hard road.

I later bought a 1066 with 18.4x38 duals that were never off. The tractor had no added weights solid or liquid. It pulled an NH 890 forage harvester with 20' highway dump trailers behind it, a 25' field cultivator with crumbler, a 12 ton manure spreader or a 20' disk.

If I were you and you didn't say, but using an M as an only tractor with no chloride, I would use one set of wheel weights and fabricate racks just ahead of your axle carriers on each side for front end suit case weights. These are quick to put on and off, when you need them or don't need them. If you don't already have weights they will not cost you any more. If you do this, let me know in 5 years what percentage of the time you run without weights, other than the wheel weights. By the way I am not suggesting I'm right, the soil I farmed was very subject to soil compaction.

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Mguy

02-19-2004 16:34:39




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 Re: How many wieghts are on your M? in reply to 1947 M, 02-19-2004 15:22:32  
47, I use 5 sets on my hard workin' M, and 2 on my haying M. 5 sets makes it steer mean on anything but tilled dirt, but it will pull a lot more than the other one. P.S. They're not all on the outside. Got two sets inside(splits). Mguy.



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Poor So. IL. Farmer

02-19-2004 15:43:56




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 Re: How many wieghts are on your M? in reply to 1947 M, 02-19-2004 15:22:32  
What are going to be using your tractor for? Mowing and raking hay one set will be fine.For heavy pulling I would go with 2 or 3 sets of weights. ON my M I have 2 sets of weights for pulling wagons,raking,ect.Just remember you need more weight for holding back the loads on the hills!!!



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Dave WV

02-19-2004 16:09:30




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 Re: Re: How many wieghts are on your M? in reply to Poor So. IL. Farmer, 02-19-2004 15:43:56  
With loader I have 4 on each wheel,sometimes wish I had more.



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Wardner

02-20-2004 02:30:32




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 Re: Re: Re: How many wieghts are on your M? in reply to Dave WV, 02-19-2004 16:09:30  
I have a F504 with loader. Similar in weight and power to M. It has 13.6 x 38 loaded tires and chains. Three sets of weights inside and 5 sets outside. It is a very stable and safe tractor yet it will still spin tires while piling heavy snow. Total ballast is around 3500 lbs. Total weight is around 9000 lbs.



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